Best Video Game 1988-1994 Round 3

I hope Zelda wins this whole thing. IMO the greatest game ever.

[Army Eye]

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FF6 losing (and by such a large margin) indicates to me that people simply haven't played it. There is no way that people who have played both games to end could even possibly have 20% that say SMB3. I think SMB3 is a top 10 game all time, but the ONLY thing it edges FF6 in is revolutionary stuff.

FF6 had better plot, music, theme, etc. SMB3 was "revolutionary"....then again so was FF6.


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LOL. you are trying to compare plot.. as if the plot means a damn thing in Mario 3 / any platformer game? In that case, RPGs should sweep every match I guess.

[MrWookie47]

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would anyone else be interested in doing a graphical/engine (if needed) overhaul of X-COM? Im sure I could nab the source code somewhere.

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Not really worth it, what does it add to a turn based game?

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How bout attempting a multiplayer version?

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Been done.

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I disagree. I think a graphical update would be nice. I mean, it's not a requirement, but I think it would be a welcome addition.

I have no idea how a multiplayer version would work. Multiple human factions competing for the honor of fighting the aliens? Hmmm. Actually. That might have some potential. Different companies vie for the funding of the world governements and gain or lose it by outperforming the others. You lose when you run out of funding, or when the aliens kill you off. Well, the problem is the time elapsing outside of combat is quasi-real time. You'd probably have to discretize the passage of days some how. I'm not sure how you'd deal with multiple teams getting a chance to detect, shoot down, and raid the same UFO. And if you aren't the one who gets to raid it, what do you do while the other guy is? Do you get to raid the UFO at the same time? Take pot shots at the other guy's men?

Really, though, this was a game that was written for 386's running DOS. I wouldn't mind a version that runs on Athlon 64's running WinXP.

[tpir90036]

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omg, he thinks titanic is the best movie ever!!!!

GAY!!


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Please give me a break. I said it was hard to argue that SMB3 was the best video game ever. Then, I *also* pointed out some sales trivia. I was in no way implying that high sales = good.

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I think your sales trivia was for console games. Or did you select only through that period?

The best selling game ever is The Sims, by far. Nothing is even close.

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Yes. It was for console games only. I got the list off of wikipedia. They have the original Sims game listed at 16 million copies. If you include the expansions though it is far and away #1.

[durron597]

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I have no idea how a multiplayer version would work. Multiple human factions competing for the honor of fighting the aliens? Hmmm. Actually. That might have some potential. Different companies vie for the funding of the world governements and gain or lose it by outperforming the others. You lose when you run out of funding, or when the aliens kill you off. Well, the problem is the time elapsing outside of combat is quasi-real time. You'd probably have to discretize the passage of days some how. I'm not sure how you'd deal with multiple teams getting a chance to detect, shoot down, and raid the same UFO. And if you aren't the one who gets to raid it, what do you do while the other guy is? Do you get to raid the UFO at the same time? Take pot shots at the other guy's men?

Really, though, this was a game that was written for 386's running DOS. I wouldn't mind a version that runs on Athlon 64's running WinXP.

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X-Com multiplayer remake

[swede123]

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I have no idea how a multiplayer version would work. Multiple human factions competing for the honor of fighting the aliens? Hmmm. Actually. That might have some potential. Different companies vie for the funding of the world governements and gain or lose it by outperforming the others. You lose when you run out of funding, or when the aliens kill you off. Well, the problem is the time elapsing outside of combat is quasi-real time. You'd probably have to discretize the passage of days some how. I'm not sure how you'd deal with multiple teams getting a chance to detect, shoot down, and raid the same UFO. And if you aren't the one who gets to raid it, what do you do while the other guy is? Do you get to raid the UFO at the same time? Take pot shots at the other guy's men?

Really, though, this was a game that was written for 386's running DOS. I wouldn't mind a version that runs on Athlon 64's running WinXP.

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You could have some added levels of complexity when it comes to missions. For example, two different players could investigate a crash site, and possibly end up fighting each other as well as the aliens. You would get scored based on your interactions with other players as well as success in dealing with aliens.

How about having some diplomacy options, ala Masters of Orion, where you could ally with other players or choose to directly attack their bases. If an ally you could share tech research, choose to share resources etc. Of course there would be much more complexity involved in this type of system, but I think it would be fairly easy to expand the alien types, space craft types and so forth. Deeper tech trees and more varieties of aliens would push the inevitable martian battle back a ways, leaving more time for multi player stuff.

Actually, the more I think about it the more I think it would kick ass if it still were single player, as long as there was more to the research and technology aspect of the game. A huge part of the charm playing the game in the first place was doing the research and finding out which tech trees were useful and which were not. Another great part of the game was discovering new and more dangerous aliens (Mutons and Etherals) as the game progressed. Imagine having a ton more aliens to figure out and beat.

Basically the combat engine is perfect the way it is, so you wouldn't have to tweak that at all. Just add to the complexity of the tech trees and the alien models and spice up the graphics a bit and I'd definitely buy this game in a heart-beat.

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Ok just one "Quick Reply"....

discussions of comparative difficulty don't have any place in ranking Final Fantasies, IMO. reason being...come on...they are all trivially easy.

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they are all trivially easy.

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Isn't every RPG easy? I haven't played nearly as many as you guys but can't you beat any RPG just by spending a lot of time on it, no matter how much you suck? I mean so can just keep on building stats until your character is just ridiculously strong? Am I missing something?

[ZeeJustin]

FF6 and FF7 are my two favorite video games of all time, with nothing being close. At the same time, I am not dissapointed to see FF6 losing to SMB 3.

It seems like a lot of the RPG fans aren't giving that game enough credit. Let's face it, every single person on the planet has played that game, most to completetion, and there's a reason for it. The gameplay is simply amazing. The secrets in that game (the warp whistles namely) have become common knowledge even to people that odn't play video games. The replayability in that game is amazing. It has been almost 16 years since that game was released, but I still enjoy playing it today. IMO, no other Mario game can ever compare to SMB 3 in terms of influence, success or even gameplay.

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they are all trivially easy.

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Isn't every RPG easy? I haven't played nearly as many as you guys but can't you beat any RPG just by spending a lot of time on it, no matter how much you suck? I mean so can just keep on building stats until your character is just ridiculously strong? Am I missing something?

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I leveled up like crazy as a kid, but now I really try not to. They are more fun when you don't.