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Old 05-11-2005, 12:59 PM
gila gila is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

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I At the lower limit tables (2-4 and 1-2), it is almost impossible to make money due to the rake. Do any of you realize that?



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Really? I will bet a decent player, with two monitors, could make $30 an hour at 2/4, and a good player could make close to $50. Half that, of course, for 1/2; and half that, of course, with only one high res. monitor.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Not if he's not winning a good bit. The question is what is his MGR.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

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I At the lower limit tables (2-4 and 1-2), it is almost impossible to make money due to the rake. Do any of you realize that?



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Really? I will bet a decent player, with two monitors, could make $30 an hour at 2/4, and a good player could make close to $50. Half that, of course, for 1/2; and half that, of course, with only one high res. monitor.

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And that does not include bonus or rakeback. So, if you can't make money online at 1/2 and 2/4, you have much bigger problems to worry about than the rake you are paying.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Thank you very much LinusKS!! You actually understand my frustration with these excessive rake fees! The fact that they are hidden fees makes people more accepting of them.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

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Thank you very much LinusKS!! You actually understand my frustration with these excessive rake fees! The fact that they are hidden fees makes people more accepting of them.

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Your really not getting the point. Everyone here sees these fees, and everyone knows how much they are paying. But do we care? No, not really. The money we pay in rake, makes sure we have a site to play at, and makes sure they offer tons of reload bonuses, advertisments, and promotions, to keep all the new little fishies coming in for us to make even more off of.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:05 PM
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You realize live casinos charge MUCH more in rake per hand?

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Um, no they don't. Party drops $3 per hand. In my area, there are dozens of casino/ cardrooms and I don't think a single one drops more $3, and many of them have a $2 rake.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

I've heard of $4 rake being pulled at $3/6 games..
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Art Vandelay Art Vandelay is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Welcome to the reality of poker. Rake has been around for a long time and it will be around for a lot longer. Thanks to PT many players are for the first time realizing exactly how much rake is paid.

I personally don't think it's too high, the site is providing me with a table and hosting the game. The rake is used to attract more players which in theory I should be able to make money off of.

Your comment about not being able to beat 1/2 and 2/4 is ridiculous.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:09 PM
grimel grimel is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

Don't worry, we all realize you are an idiot. If I can make money at .25/.50 and .50/1 while you can't at 5/10 you are a complete moron. You do realize the rake paid is part of the pots you have won? The way you make money is to win more $$ in pots than you pay in blinds and rake. Unless you are playing either a tight weak or psychos-r-us style this isn't a problem. As of right now, about 4 months after getting "serious" about it, I have about $25 of "my" money left online in various poker sites. I'm bankrolled to 200BB or better on 3 sites. You figure it out.
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Old 05-11-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t be fooled!! The Rake is ......

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Um, no they don't. Party drops $3 per hand. In my area, there are dozens of casino/ cardrooms and I don't think a single one drops more $3, and many of them have a $2 rake.

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Admittedly I've only played at 2 casinos, and I believe they both charged 10% up to $5 below 10/20. I think it was a time charge above that.
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