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View Poll Results: With what fraction of hands should hero push?
any two cards 0 0%
top 75% 0 0%
top 67% 1 7.69%
top 50% 5 38.46%
top 33% 1 7.69%
top 25% 6 46.15%
top 10% 0 0%
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:15 PM
bluefeet bluefeet is offline
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Default ($60) big & blue!!



$60 Stars Turbo
Seat 3: (2035 in chips) UTG
Seat 4: (2385 in chips)
Seat 6: (2255 in chips)
Seat 7: (3270 in chips)
bluefeet: (1235 in chips) SB
Seat 9: (2320 in chips) BB

L5 75/150

Dealt to bluefeet [ ] ...love my new PS cards [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

2 folds
Seat 6: raises 300 to 450
1 fold
bluefeet: ???
[BB behind]

Seat 6 has played two notable hands:

(L2)
Seat 3: raises 120 to 150
1 fold
Seat 5: raises 120 to 270
Seat 6: raises 120 to 390
2 folds
Seat 3: calls 240
Seat 5: raises 1000 to 1390 and is all-in
Seat 6: folds!

...the other was doubling up recently, pushing TT over an EP 3x
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

run awaaaaaaaay. i think you find better spots than this. you're on the button next too.

if you call with stop'n go, your flop push would be 860 chips into a 1050 pot... not terrible, but definitely not awesome.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:26 PM
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I think i'd push given your chip stack, has Seat 6 been stealing a lot from LP? KQd is a pretty decent hand from a CO raiser, and you have a little FE if he's layed down a hand before following a similar raise all-in.

I don't like the Stop n' go *just* incase BB calls, which he probably wouldn't but who knows. push.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:27 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

I think folding is your best option here.

A stop n go would work if he a) does not have a real hand. He could easily have a real hand this time (high pair or something like that) and b) he folds his bad hands. Are you sure he would fold a medium pair with overcards on the board/a-high/bottom pair/etc.?

A push really depends on the range of hands and his call range. If you are sure he is raising crap again and that he will fold to a push, push. (duh) But I think the 3BB raise looks strong, and he would probably call your push. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

But don't listen to me.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

I think his PFR% is more important than the two listed hands.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

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I think his PFR% is more important than the two listed hands.

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Well, in fairness to the given "read", I only recall what I've already shared.

(between you and me, I find only one other hand he raised PF - over a limper, taking it down with a c-bet on the flop, L4)
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

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I think his PFR% is more important than the two listed hands.

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Well, in fairness to the given "read", I only recall what I've already shared.

(between you and me, I find only one other hand he raised PF - over a limper, taking it down with a c-bet on the flop, L4)

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Before I got pokerace, I found that if I didn't notice a player preflop, that means he was pretty tight preflop. So I'd let this one go.

Edit: especially because your stack size is so awkward
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

How did I become the resident "weak-ass"? This one's a fold....you have zero FE here and K high.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

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you have zero FE here

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Um... not really. You have plenty of chips... but it's still a fold.
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Old 12-19-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: ($60) big & blue!!

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you have zero FE here

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Um... not really. You have plenty of chips... but it's still a fold.

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What's he raising from the CO that he's not calling 700 more with? Unless this is a flat out air-steal with 72 I think Hero's FE is below 10%-which for me is negligible when considering my course of action.
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