10/20 AK preflop

[Victor]

this hand illustrates perfectly why fulltable is gay and sucks.

[mike l.]

perfect and anyone who has a problem with it doesnt understand limit hold em.

[mike l.]

"think calling this a standard fold is just plain wrong"

youre wrong. the players would have to be psychotic and terrible to make this hand playable. this is extremely standard and it would be a very rare exception/circumstance where this hand would be playable.

wtf are you talking about?

a lot of players wouldnt fold this hand here.. well done in my opinion.. i dont have to see the other responses.

im not coming w/ this hand unless its suited. most likely you're facing AT LEAST a coinflop situation.. theyre telling you their hand is best.. so listen to them.

nice fold, i respect it a lot.

i agree 100%.. hes dumping money into a dominated hand. you're very right on the "anybody who doesnt agree doesnt understand limit hold'em."

hahaha.. agreed most of the time..

but in a capped pot i'd prefer playing any pair.. 22-AA and hoping to hit a set.. otherwise AK is worthless here.

that is the difference between winning and "break-even"/losing players.

i agree totally w/ the fold.

limit of NL this hand is going in the muck after a raise and a re-raise.

agreed somewhat.. your evaluation of the possible hand is worth a look at the flop.. BUT!

your pre-flop investment which will be a cap is not worth the return over many situations similar to this w/ 6-5s.

i like the concept.. depending on the opponents. i would probably play it if they were really LAG postflop and my return on investment is really well and they pay off draws. but over the long run you're paying 2 big bets to see a flop, and if you miss it you're gone.

what pot odds?

pot odds only matter if you're drawing.. and in this case.. you're probably not drawing to many outs .. if ANY!

i'd rather go in w/ a pair of deuces on this flop.

at least you're prettty sure you're going in with two live deuces :-p