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Old 12-24-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Super System 1/2 or both

hi, i am new here and making my first post.
i have recently purchased super system 2, but i have been told from various sources that it does not replace supersystem1 and and been even recommended by some to purchase volume1.

i have also been told that large sections of volume 2 are simply reprints from volume 1.

is volume 2 a complete book on it's own??
and is it worth purchasing volume 1??

i wish to specialise in no limit hold em.
thanks.
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Old 12-24-2005, 02:04 PM
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Default Re: Super System 1/2 or both

The NLHE section is the same in both volumes.

Most of the stuff in volume 1 is obsolete. The section on stud by Reese is good. The section on limit holdem by Baldwin may be worth reading, but it is geared towards a version that doesn't exist. The section on Stud high/low no qualifier doesn't apply well to Stud/8, but it is useful if you are playing in the "big game" or something where they play that. The general material on holdem by Brunson is excellent but elementary.

In summary vol. 2 is fairly obsolete, but probably worth owning for any pro who plays limit poker.
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Old 12-24-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: Super System 1/2 or both

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Most of the stuff in volume 1 is obsolete.

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i disagree with this, most of the benefit from reading poker books from seeing how experts think about the game and situations, not for direct advice they give. ive read a lot of sklanskys articles on stud and other games i dont play but they are very helpful. its the same thing with the non NL sections of super system, i only play NL but i still read the omaha/etc sections. if only read the sections of books which are directly your game and expect to draw 100% relevant plays/methods to your game from the books you are making a mistake.
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Old 12-24-2005, 04:26 PM
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SS 2 is really the only one you need, the players that buy SS instead of 2 are trying to save a couple of dollars is all I can figure, Super System solidly outsells Super System 2 on Amazon but really I don't understand why, SS2 is more current with games that are current today, The original fills in some gaps but because those games are not widely spread and the NL section is essentially the same only buy SS 2 IMO
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Old 12-25-2005, 02:45 AM
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buy SS2, not 1, there's been a recent debate about this under the title "would anyone buy a book from hoyt corkins". Noticeably, SS2 is eseentially the same book as SS1, with some minor add ons and minor changes. SS2 makes SS1 obsolete(except for the brunson life story and such, which is somewhat neat, not worth another 100% of the money though)
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: Super System 1/2 or both

I think it depends how much you enjoy reading poker books and whether you wish to part with $30.

I have just finished reading SS1 and enjoyed it, because I know that the book is a classic and was one of the pioneering poker strategy books when it was written almost 30 years ago.

I am currently reading SS2 and yes I have noticed that there is some duplication, notably in Brunson's life history.

Otherwise, there is advice on how to play Draw Poker, 7 Card Stud, different Lowball variations, and High-Low Split. (Also sections on limit and NL hold'em).

I dont know (with the exception of 7 card stud) how widely spread those games are today, but nonetheless I found it interesting to read about them.

If you are mainly interested in good Hold'Em strategy books, then I would invest your $30 elsewhere. However, if you enjoy reading poker books, I dont think that you would be dissapointed if you added this book to your collection.
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Super System 1/2 or both

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The NLHE section is the same in both volumes.

Most of the stuff in volume 1 is obsolete.

In summary vol. 2 is fairly obsolete, but probably worth owning for any pro who plays limit poker.

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does any one else agree that volume 2 is obsolete??
if so which parts?? or what views in the book do people disagree with?
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