Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Other Topics > Politics

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-20-2005, 07:59 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: actually pvn
Posts: 0
Default NYC transit strike

Bloomberg today said that the transit workers' strike was crippling the city's economy (which is true), and blamed the union for (I'm paraphrasing here) stealing productivity from the city's people.

Hey Bloomberg, do you think the people of NYC are *entitled* to the labor of the transit union? That they should be forced to work?

The *real* blame, of course, lies with government. Government decided to put all the eggs in one basket and have a monopoly transit system. By eliminating any alternatives, the city put itself into a position to be blackmailed by the transit workers.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-20-2005, 09:05 PM
BCPVP BCPVP is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Whitewater, WI
Posts: 830
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]
The *real* blame, of course, lies with government. Government decided to put all the eggs in one basket and have a monopoly transit system. By eliminating any alternatives, the city put itself into a position to be blackmailed by the transit workers.

[/ QUOTE ]
Strikes can't occur against private businesses?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-20-2005, 09:23 PM
BadBoyBenny BadBoyBenny is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 66
Default Re: NYC transit strike

It's not the public/private issue he was referring to but the all the eggs in one basket issue. If there were multiple companies running various parts of the infrastructure, the strike would most likely be less encompassing.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-20-2005, 09:24 PM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 396
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]

Hey Bloomberg, do you think the people of NYC are *entitled* to the labor of the transit union? That they should be forced to work?


[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, there is a state law in New York which does make it illegal for them to strike.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-20-2005, 10:14 PM
RacersEdge RacersEdge is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 37
Default Re: NYC transit strike

The city just fined those lazy bastards $1 million. Hopefully, this will be a blow to all unions.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-20-2005, 10:32 PM
Dynasty Dynasty is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 4,044
Default Re: NYC transit strike

Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-20-2005, 10:43 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: actually pvn
Posts: 0
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]
Actually, there is a state law in New York which does make it illegal for them to strike.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. An oppressive law. How can legitimately you force someone to labor against their will?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-20-2005, 10:46 PM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: actually pvn
Posts: 0
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]
Strikes can't occur against private businesses?

[/ QUOTE ]

Of course they can. In a unmonopolized market, though, a strike against a single business can't cripple the entire city. Further, the threat of a competitor snatching up marketshare while the stiking workers shut the company down gives management huge incentives to get the strike overwith (and the threat that the employer won't be able to recover if the strike lasts too long gives the workers huge incentives to get to agreement as well).
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-20-2005, 10:51 PM
Dynasty Dynasty is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 4,044
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Actually, there is a state law in New York which does make it illegal for them to strike.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. An oppressive law. How can legitimately you force someone to labor against their will?

[/ QUOTE ]

They're not being forced to work. They simply aren't being allowed to strike. They have the freedom to quite their job if they don't want it.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-21-2005, 12:02 AM
tylerdurden tylerdurden is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: actually pvn
Posts: 0
Default Re: NYC transit strike

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Actually, there is a state law in New York which does make it illegal for them to strike.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. An oppressive law. How can legitimately you force someone to labor against their will?

[/ QUOTE ]

They're not being forced to work. They simply aren't being allowed to strike. They have the freedom to quite their job if they don't want it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is there another (oppressive) law preventing them from being fired if they "strike" (as opposed to "not showing up")?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:14 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.