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Re: 6th Street Bet > For Value or Draw? Both?
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[ QUOTE ] Raise 3rd. You should be ahead of his range and you want to play heads-up against him. If some other call that’s fine too. [/ QUOTE ] Play HU with a three-flush? Personally, I'd like some callers to pump up the pot odds. I call here. [/ QUOTE ] Read 7CSFAP... |
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Read 7CSFAP... [/ QUOTE ] I don't have that book, and I don't intend to buy it very soon. I've read West's and Kammen's books, and they don't advocate raising with a three-flush in early position. However, I'd be very interested in hearing what Mason and David have to say about it. If you don't mind, could you please elaborate a little further why raising is correct here? |
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Re: 6th Street Bet > For Value or Draw? Both?
Read 7CS4AP. Really. Both of the books you cite have some really substandard advice.
Raising third puts more money in the pot with what is quite likely the best hand. If it gets heads-up, you're more likely to win by pairing one of your big cards than you are if the pot is multi-way. Playing aggressively early may set you up to buy the pot on fifth street if the other guy hasn't made significant improvement. Limping isn't terrible, but I raise third street about every time. |
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[ QUOTE ] Read 7CSFAP... [/ QUOTE ] I don't have that book, and I don't intend to buy it very soon. I've read West's and Kammen's books, and they don't advocate raising with a three-flush in early position. However, I'd be very interested in hearing what Mason and David have to say about it. If you don't mind, could you please elaborate a little further why raising is correct here? [/ QUOTE ] So, there's a book out there, written by the best authors in poker, with advice you haven't seen in other books, and you refuse to read it? The fact that you don't know why raising is a good idea should be reason enough for you to buy this book. Seriously. |
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So, there's a book out there, written by the best authors in poker, with advice you haven't seen in other books, and you refuse to read it? The fact that you don't know why raising is a good idea should be reason enough for you to buy this book. Seriously. [/ QUOTE ] I don't refuse to buy it. It's just that I'm going to China and New Zealand for twelve months next week, and poker books aren't among my top priorities right now. Besides, I only started playing 7CS about two months ago, and from what I've heard, 7CSFAP is exactly what the title suggests - advanced. I'm not there yet. Hence, I will wait before I buy this book. |
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Nice, I'm moving to Thailand in about 4-5 months. Let me know how you like china. |
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I'll do that. By the way, my buddies tell me Thailand is awesome, so I'm sure you'll have a great time there. I take it you've been there before?
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Re: 6th Street Bet > For Value or Draw? Both?
Yeah, I was rather curtly told to get the book a few months ago. I did and I wish I had earlier. If you've digested West's book, it's time for 7cs4ap.
BTW, another reason for the raise on 3rd is that you will get more action when you axually do have the pair. |
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Re: 6th Street Bet > For Value or Draw? Both?
3rd:I prefer the raise since the 3 flush contains 2 fairly high cards that are live & could pair.
6th:I would not re-raise since he knew you could easily have three 10's,but he didn't care & raised anyway. |
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Re: 6th Street Bet > For Value or Draw? Both?
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[ QUOTE ] Read 7CSFAP... [/ QUOTE ] I don't have that book, and I don't intend to buy it very soon. I've read West's and Kammen's books, and they don't advocate raising with a three-flush in early position. However, I'd be very interested in hearing what Mason and David have to say about it. If you don't mind, could you please elaborate a little further why raising is correct here? [/ QUOTE ] 7CSFAP overemphasses the important of trying to get pots heads up and trying to win heads up pots. In most games that's counterproductive. You'll have maximised your %win, but your EV will be breakeven or slightly less. Sometimes I get the impression that SMZ think that you can play losing hands, but make up for it up on volume. |
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