KQo in the SB

[Wynton]

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For those saying I should check raise the flop, I was planning to check raise any card but an ace on the turn. How do you feel about that?

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I don't like that plan. Pot's big enough now to try and force some people out before they get lucky and hit trips with a middle pair, or something else.

[Schneids]

You need to bet the flop because it best controls how many bets get put into the pot and ensures you are not stuck with hard decisions on any streets, where as comparatively...

Your plan to c/r the turn sucks because you may get faced with two cold on the turn before that point and how can you know if someone is doing a free showdown raise with JJ or has QJ or if they actually have a huge hand?

[Evan]

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Your plan to c/r the turn sucks because you may get faced with two cold on the turn

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I didn't consider this, you may have a point.

I'm suprised you think I should lead the flop after UTG capped preflop. Bet the flop and just call down a raise? I'm not sure how I feel about that line.

[Lmn55d]

yea Schneids, can you elaborate on why you like betting the flop?

[KDawgCometh]

I like that thought process a lot. THe ace really does change things here. This whole hand is really a rock and hard place, so its hard to find a line where we really feel good in general.

[Evan]

Schneids told me he wouldn't bet the river. I think checking really sucks because I'll almost never get bets from smalelr pairs. Anyone have thoughts on that?

[kurosh]

I like everything but PF. I would rather call. If button didn't call, raising or folding is probably better. Button probably has a missed draw like JT and BB has a pair under aces, maybe kings.

[KDawgCometh]

i'm not much of a fan or betting the river to be honest. Being called in two placed when that ace hit really blows. I still think that calling one bet and folding if you have to overcall

[kurosh]

Being called on the turn is a good thing. I think they would raise with a pair of aces or better. I think BB had KK and the other had JT.

[admiralfluff]

with a pair of aces they'd be afraid of AK, AQ, a set, or him folding JJ &c. if they raised. both of these players were in a position to call 2 bets cold preflop, them both calling seems to make it unlikely that neither has an A. UTG's auto c/f on the flop means he almost always has an underpair, and could not have accounted for any of the aces.

If we got one caller on the turn (preferably the BB) it would be good. With 2, it doesn't seem at all likely that both will have had and called with worse hands on the turn.