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Old 01-11-2005, 03:40 PM
CORed CORed is offline
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Default Re: Not according to American Justice

So you feel that living in Indonesia, Sri Lanka or Thailand is the equivalent of having been convicted of a crime?
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Old 01-11-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Reading Comprehension --- F

What percentage of tsunami survivors do you think are engaged in the evil practices, cited in the article? The fact that child prostitution is going on in Thailand doen't indicate that some poor fisherman whose village and fishing boat were destroyed by the tsunami and now has no way to feed himself was running a kiddie brothel. You seem to think that all of these people deserve to die because some of them might be criminals.
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Old 01-11-2005, 04:31 PM
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Default Reply from a neo-con.

My creditials -- pretty damn conservative (so now you no my bias).

Would I provide relief to Nazi Germany -- NO!

Did I try to provide some relief to tsunami victims that happened to be Muslims -- YES!

I have a lot of problems with Muslims in general, but I don't think that Muslims as a whole are at the same level of depravity than that of the Nazi's bent on world domination and extermination. Yes, it was Muslims that attacked our country, that discriminate against women, that are vile in their racism, that still practice slavery, and that even includes the sexual slavery of children.

BUT, these are not the general traits of ALL, or even the majority, of Muslims. Now I may give you that the majority of Muslims may hate America and Israel but that is about as 'bad' as the majority of Muslims are. MOST Muslims are not raping children, working in the slave trade, or participating in a Jihad against the West. I don't have to understand their value systems, or to agree with their values and actions, to understand that 'today' they can use my help.
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Old 01-12-2005, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: MSF

Can I say "Ding ding ding" without pissing off nicky g?

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Old 01-12-2005, 02:35 AM
arabie arabie is offline
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Default Re: hmmmmm.....

You are right. After taking Philosophy of Law 210, i learned that laws are made for their value, not their purpose! This is the basis for constitutional law!

For example, we could catch more pedophile pornography if we illegaly searched every home, however, our constitutional rights would be evaded. As a result, we will only search based on an approriate code of conduct that respects the constitution and, therefore, catch less criminals. This is the case because our laws are made for theirr value, not their purpose.

Similarily, the enforcement of laws should be respected for value, not their purpose. Their purpose is to convict the guilty and not the innocent. Their value is the prevention of further crimes. Consequentially, we gain more by respecting the value.

Some may say that constitutionally every person has rights and one innocent man isn't worth a thousand guilty, and blah, blah.. But you cannot argue the value or consquential benefit, on a cost-benefit scale, when compared to just locking that one innocent man up. Maybe this just an an opinion though.
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Old 01-12-2005, 05:48 AM
nicky g nicky g is offline
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"Can I say "Ding ding ding" without pissing off nicky g? "

No.
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