Foxwoods Follies... the 2+2 edition: $5-10 kill game - Page 3

BarronVangorToth · #1 10-06-2005, 07:28 AM

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the first rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club

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While Fight Club is one of my favorite films, how he broached the subject didn't break the rules of Fight Club.

He said it to me in such a manner that no one could hear him.

While we did chat about the internet, no one really could know what we were talking about.

In short: Tyler wouldn't kick him out.

Barron Vangor Toth
BarronVangorToth.com

W. Deranged · #2 10-03-2005, 02:27 PM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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I think this is stupid.

I can tell very quickly whether someone is a 2+2 player or not; usually within like an hour or so of live play.

I assume they can tell the same of me. Letting them know is not going to change much.

It is a problem if you start arousing the suspicions of the fish at the table, but if you are discreet, I find acknowledging someone else's poker background can be interesting, and often leads to more interesting table conversations than usual (hopefully non-poker related ones). This idea that "I don't want the 2+2er to know I'm a 2+2er because then he'll know how to beat me" is misguided.

If both party's are actually decent 2+2ers playing correctly and observing their opponent's play, they should be able to realize what's up pretty quickly without explicit discussion. If one side can't someone's doing something wrong.

newhizzle · #3 10-04-2005, 11:05 PM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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I think this is stupid.

I can tell very quickly whether someone is a 2+2 player or not; usually within like an hour or so of live play.

I assume they can tell the same of me. Letting them know is not going to change much.

It is a problem if you start arousing the suspicions of the fish at the table, but if you are discreet, I find acknowledging someone else's poker background can be interesting, and often leads to more interesting table conversations than usual (hopefully non-poker related ones). This idea that "I don't want the 2+2er to know I'm a 2+2er because then he'll know how to beat me" is misguided.

If both party's are actually decent 2+2ers playing correctly and observing their opponent's play, they should be able to realize what's up pretty quickly without explicit discussion. If one side can't someone's doing something wrong.

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its not to keep the other 2+2er from knowing im a 2+2er, its to keep the rest of the table from knowing what 2+2 is, and that there is more strategy to poker than they think

Scuba Chuck · #4 10-05-2005, 12:21 AM

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its not to keep the other 2+2er from knowing im a 2+2er, its to keep the rest of the table from knowing what 2+2 is, and that there is more strategy to poker than they think

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I don't know about you, but IME, personally, and with friends, it takes a lot of energy and effort to learn how to play poker correct. I doubt if even 10% of the poker nation would study as much as you need to, even if you told 100% of them.

newhizzle · #5 10-05-2005, 12:28 AM

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its not to keep the other 2+2er from knowing im a 2+2er, its to keep the rest of the table from knowing what 2+2 is, and that there is more strategy to poker than they think

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I don't know about you, but IME, personally, and with friends, it takes a lot of energy and effort to learn how to play poker correct. I doubt if even 10% of the poker nation would study as much as you need to, even if you told 100% of them.

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why start them down the right track?

i think it is a good policy to just never talk strategy/2+2 at the table, i thought this was something everyone here pretty much agreed on, its just as bad in my oppinion as saying, "you idiot, whyd you fish for that gut draw on the river?"

Kyo Souma II · #6 10-04-2005, 10:51 PM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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Barron reminded me, to a disturbing degree, of another poster (mosch). I felt weird dropping a sup bro out of the blue with a player in between us. Once she left, it was pretty easy to discuss 2+2 without anyone else being remotely aware.

I had vastly more fun letting the cat out of the bag than I would have otherwise.

-kyo

newhizzle · #7 10-04-2005, 11:03 PM

i dont think theres anything wrong with dropping a sup bro, i just like to wait till im away from the table to mention 2+2

i became a 2+2er by doing something with an underpair and dude on party was like "that was the correct move, are you a 2+2er?" i was like "what? oh thats sklanskys website right?" and it all started there

alul · #8 10-05-2005, 02:03 PM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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I agree. Usually even bad players start playing better against you if they think you know something about the game.

bottomset · #9 10-06-2005, 12:52 AM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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um as long as you aren't berating players, and keep it relatively lowkey, talking about it isn't gonna change anything

most people don't have the motivation to work hard to get better at a recreational hobby

B Dids · #10 10-06-2005, 06:58 PM

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i dont think you should be talking about 2+2 at the table

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This is such a nonsense attitude.

BAD PLAYERS ARE NOT BAD PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LEARN, THEY ARE BAD PLAYERS BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE TO LEARN.

Heaven forbit that two people at a poker table both visit a poker website.