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Old 09-21-2005, 03:57 PM
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Basically, if you don't raise TT, you are playing it the same way you would play 22 to 77, just hope you hit the set, otherwise you concede the hand.

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Raising 88 here = puke. I am in the "limp here with up to JJ at an $11" crowd.
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Old 09-21-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

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First, I think you have to raise that preflop.


The range of hands you could be up against: AA, KK, QQ, flush draw or 2 flush draws, straight draws, unlikely a straight, and unlikely a set of Js. Just based on the pure probability of people moving in with draws in 10+1s, you have to call. You are probably in the lead, and even if the flush hits, you are still like a 25% chance of making a boat.

-MG

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raise preflop with TT???? are you insane!!! i would even limp JJ in level 1 and play it for set value.
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Old 09-21-2005, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

I wouldn't necessarily raise with soooo many limpers in an $11, but it is certainly not insane.

To the OP: I call in an $11 - too often you will find either or both of them having cards that leave you completely baffled.
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Old 09-21-2005, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

No, you can never get away from this, good play.
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Old 09-21-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

standard 10+1 play. dont beat yerself up. holla
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

All you people saying this is a call at the $11s - What level do you fold this at? $55s? $215s? $22s? What?
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

I qualified it with $11s because it is an easy call (IMHO) in an $11 where they could have a much wider range of hands.

Only being behind JJ, 79 and 9Q, and certainly getting odds to go up against any draws, even if they are slight favorites, and having redraws on the straights, I think it is probably a call in any STT, but a much tougher call at a higher buyin.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: Can you get away from this set?

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All you people saying this is a call at the $11s - What level do you fold this at? $55s? $215s? $22s? What?

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Thats an interesting question however it is almost impossible to answer. How often to this many people limp in level 1 of a 55+? Since the answer is rarely to never the rest of the hand plays out entirely differently. Also in a 55+ The only hand that is beating you is JJ as q9 and 79 are very unlikely. So this line is so different in each level because there are so many different variables.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:28 PM
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CALL.
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