Three-handed position with a good player

[ElSapo]

In a three-handed game with a bad player and a TAG, where do you prefer to be?

[Megenoita]

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In a three-handed game with a bad player and a TAG, where do you prefer to be?

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On the direct right of the Tag so that when the 4th player, etc. come, I have position on him [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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[jba]

awesome RGP thread with negreanu, lederer, arieh, and others tackling this question here

[Danenania]

Fish on your right. This gives you position on the fish 2/3 of the time.

[ElSapo]

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In a three-handed game with a bad player and a TAG, where do you prefer to be?

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Ok, I guess I don't understand the answers. Three handed, it almost seems like it doesn't matter -- if I'm on his right, I have my SB when it's his BB, and button when it's his SB... I guess the question is, what situation makes the biggest difference?

Seems like I want the button when it's his BB, so that's on his left.

Sound right? I think someone said that, but that's my rationale.

[jba]

did you read that link or no?

[GetThere1Time]

Fish on your right, TAG on your left.

From your button:
When it's your button, fish is in the BB and the TAG will fold more SBs to your raises and the fish will never fold a BB. You'll be HU with position on the fish a decent amount. If it's reversed than the fish is always calling out of the SB giving the TAG a better price to enter the pot and TAG has immediate position on the fish. Bad news for you.

From your SB:
If you're the SB, and the fish is the button he's going to limp sometimes letting you come in cheap and when he raises you can first isolate him. If the TAG is the button he has position on you and you drive the fish out to isolate the TAG. Then you're playing a pot OOP and not with your "target." If you just call, the tag's still in the best position to win a big pot from the donk unless you make a hand. And, of course, there's folding in the SB, which just sucks because the TAG is playing heads up with the fishy guy and you want his money

From your BB:
When I'm in the BB and the TAG's on the button, he'll be raising more and the SB donk will be cold calling more giving me 5:1 on my BB hands with immediate position on the donk. If the donk is the button you'll likely get more free play. Pots will be smaller. This isn't necessarily bad because it exaggurates the donks mistakes postflop, but a donks play is probably less terrible EV wise in a 3-handed game. For example, when he peels with a mid-range gutshot for 2 or 3 bets on the flop, its probably not as bad in a 3-handed game because his gutshot might have 2 overs to a winner with it, etc. So I'd rather play a big pot where I can isolate the donk than play a small one where I have to fold more to the TAG when he bets/or cr's before me.

So TAG left and fish right gives you the chance at the fishes money, IMO

[UncleSalty]

I think this analysis is perfect. This situation isolates those factors that are most important when excercising proper table selection in a fuller game.

[Victor]

i want the tag on my left and the fish on my right.

now when im the button the tag will be folding most of his sb hands and i will be hu with the fish.

when i am the sb i can play more hands if the fish is passive and likes to limp on the button. if its a maniac fish then obviously this is null but also, he likely is not a fish at 3handed.

when i am in the bb i get nice odds to play against the tag and often the fish will be calling in the sb giving me a very nice overlay.

[Victor]

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awesome RGP thread with negreanu, lederer, arieh, and others tackling this question here

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the funny thing about that thread is negreanu is wrong initially. apparently, us hush experts are better than him.