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Old 12-08-2005, 10:10 PM
Eeegah Eeegah is offline
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Default Re: Obvious call with the 2nd nuts?

Sorry, I meant more of a general question. Say we were BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and had called down. I raise this river and am now thinking that'd be a leak of mine.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: Obvious call with the 2nd nuts?

Being a nit: you have the third nuts.

63d or 68d makes a straight flush
Ad ace high flush
Kd (you) king high flush.
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Obvious call with the 2nd nuts?

This is an EASY call. After BB raises the river, there are 13.5 BBs in the pot. You are DEFINITELY good 1 out of 13 times here. Incidentally, if I am BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Jx, I play it exactly the same way.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Obvious call with the 2nd nuts?

I agree. I think this falls under the NPA's rant about folding the river in large pots for a single bet unless you're 90%+ sure that you're beaten.
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Old 12-09-2005, 03:45 AM
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Default Re: Obvious call with the 2nd nuts?

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This is an EASY call. After BB raises the river, there are 13.5 BBs in the pot. You are DEFINITELY good 1 out of 13 times here. Incidentally, if I am BB with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Jx, I play it exactly the same way.

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is that right? well how about this? there are three combos of Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J. there are also 3 combos of Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A. these are the only two hands he can have that we beat, and there are SIX of them. AQ should be severely discounted for the lack of the preflop raise, and QJ should be discounted for the flop/turn/river aggression. compare this # to the countless A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]X hands he can have here, all of which fit much much better with his play in this hand. here, i'll do it for you.

A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 - 3 (A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] makes a turn flush)
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]3 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T - 3
A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J - 3

AQ and AK should have been raised preflop. this is a total of 30 hands, all which make perfect sense given his play. discount AQ/QJ to 2 of 6 combos because they do not fit well and this is not a call.

it's an easy call to make without thinking, yeah, and i would make it too. but it's a fold.
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