I played this hand horribly..

benneh · #1 08-27-2005, 01:36 PM

what is your line on the flop and turn? gah!

no reads, only about the 5th hand ofthe tourney.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t1500)
Hero (t1490)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1400)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1430)
UTG+1 (t1850)
MP1 (t1550)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, MP1 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero calls t20, 1 fold, Button calls t20, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (t130) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t80, MP1 raises to t160, Hero calls t160, Button folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t80.

Turn: (t610) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t220, MP1 calls t220, Hero calls t220.

River: (t1270) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t380, MP1 calls t380, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2030

Chief911 · #2 08-27-2005, 01:39 PM

Push the turn. I dont mind you sucking them in on the flop, although bottom two pair on a 2 two a flush board is a dangerous hand. I'd probably just call and hope for no club on the turn. Either way you have to push that turn.

Nick

adanthar · #3 08-27-2005, 01:52 PM

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Push the turn. I dont mind you sucking them in on the flop

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The other card is an ace. It's the fifth hand so AJ will call. The best way to play this is superstrong, although I'd agree with you if it was a king instead.

benneh · #4 08-27-2005, 03:33 PM

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Push the turn. I dont mind you sucking them in on the flop, although bottom two pair on a 2 two a flush board is a dangerous hand. I'd probably just call and hope for no club on the turn. Either way you have to push that turn.

Nick

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Fair enough. MP1s mini raise just seemed so weird and ended up turning me into the weakie-tightie i was in this hand. is our line the same on the turn if MP1 raises to 240 or 360?

UTG+1 was just a donk and wasn't really worried about him.

Jeebus · #5 08-27-2005, 04:01 PM

there were no raises pre flop yet the betting got going on the flop. i would reraise the flop and if i encountered much be almost positive of a good flush draw or A 8 or 6. The board is to perfect for someone to fall into a two pair as well, especially this early in a tournament.

gobboboy · #6 08-27-2005, 04:08 PM

I would raise the flop to get heads up and maybe put him to the test. The pot is already fairly big and it wouldn't be bad to take it down right now. I don't see him making such a big bet with two clubs. If you raise the flop and he calls, push any turn for sure. If he folds, you picked up a fairly large pot.

baumer · #7 08-27-2005, 04:14 PM

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no reads, only about the 5th hand ofthe tourney.

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UTG+1 was just a donk and wasn't really worried about him.

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????

A flop with that much action before you is a nice spot to get your money in with the best of it. (Push flop)
The turn is scary but I think I still push there. (Push turn)

The river sucks.

EDIT: The buy-in of this tourney may be of some use.

If it is a lower buy-in a flop push is even more useful, as Top Pair is usually enough to get some of these suckers all-in.

nath · #8 08-27-2005, 04:14 PM

I make a big raise on the flop.
Take it down now, since it's draw heavy. Also, you may get an ace to come along.

pokerponcho · #9 08-27-2005, 04:32 PM

Do you want your opponents to improve? No, push on the flop, try to figure out if you are beat on the turn, if they call.

Don't slowplay here. They can't make any kind of second best hand. Even if the turn and river makes a running pair you are beat as your three pair is surely not best!

Two to a suit!! Re-raise while you are ahead, assuming you are ahead. The minimum raise shouldn't mean much more than top pair good kicker, like AJ, AQ. Don't be afraid.