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Old 12-25-2005, 08:23 PM
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i'm just moving to six max tables from full ring games and am playing more heads up to four handed tables. i am not very experienced at short handed play and i am pretty much experimenting. i just sat down and i don't have stats on either players yet but the sb just went four bets on the flop with middle pair and no draw the previous hand.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
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Old 12-25-2005, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: was this a bad play?

The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though. The rest is good.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:23 PM
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Default Re: was this a bad play?

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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though. The rest is good.

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yeah that's what i was thinking. but i figured if i'm going to defend my blind and flop a pair with two backdoor draws i might as well take a chance.
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Old 12-25-2005, 09:29 PM
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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though. The rest is good.

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yeah that's what i was thinking. but i figured if i'm going to defend my blind and flop a pair with two backdoor draws i might as well take a chance.

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It's close if you had a read that BT was passive it would be fine.
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Old 12-25-2005, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: was this a bad play?

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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though.

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Flop call is horrible.

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Old 12-26-2005, 12:16 AM
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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though.

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Flop call is horrible.

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Ok...I'll keep an open mind.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:22 AM
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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though.

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Flop call is horrible.

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Ok...I'll keep an open mind.

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Hand is just too marginal. You are drawing to a not clean 6 outs in a pot that is too small for 6 outs to draw where there is a preflop raiser yet to act on an ace high board. Not good.

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Old 12-26-2005, 12:33 AM
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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though.

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Flop call is horrible.

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Ok...I'll keep an open mind.

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Hand is just too marginal. You are drawing to a not clean 6 outs in a pot that is too small for 6 outs to draw where there is a preflop raiser yet to act on an ace high board. Not good.

Krishan

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Yeah I wasn't thinking about the PFR being behind us. Good point we're paying 2 or worse having to fold to two pretty often.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:34 AM
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Flop call is horrible.

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Yeah, don't like the turn either.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:45 AM
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The flop call is pretty thin since you're not closing the action. Not terrible though.

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Flop call is horrible.

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three handed with the button raising every hand this is a bad call?
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