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Old 11-03-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default $11: Easy push was JJ???

***** Hand History for Game 2972186142 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17093272 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, November 03, 01:03:09 EDT 2005
Table Table 66957 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: hedgehogger1 ( $625 )
Seat 3: DoctorBucko ( $1030 )
Button: Graysonn ( $650 )
SB: JV_33 ( $3415 )
BB: nautique13 ( $760 )
Seat 9: emptyseat20 ( $765 )
Seat 10: Bailey_C ( $755 )
Trny:17093272 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to emptyseat20 [ Jc Jh ]
emptyseat20 raises [125].
Bailey_C folds.
hedgehogger1 folds.
DoctorBucko is all-In [1030]
Graysonn folds.
JV_33 folds.
nautique13 folds.
-My turn to act...

Any thoughts on what to do here? Should I be happy getting my chips in here even if it is a coinflip? I was 50/50 here on calling or folding....
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

I'd call that.

A bigger pocket pair doesn't want you to fold, so probably wouldn't push here.

You're likely against a smaller pair, maybe a big Ace.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:02 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

Hello and welcome to "why I don't raise JJ in EP on levels 1-2". I'm your host, ChrisV. Tonight on the show: special guest ivey_fan.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

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Hello and welcome to "why I don't raise JJ in EP on levels 1-2". I'm your host, ChrisV. Tonight on the show: special guest ivey_fan.

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Old 11-03-2005, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

I think you might be overestimating the play at the 11's. Personally I don't ever raise with JJ's unless I'm in late position and it's folded to me (which almost never happens). I would fold this hand because I've been running into alot of higher pocket pairs. With the raise the thinking is that hero can't fold after that raise and has to call my KK's AA's. The only problem I have with this hand is that I limp and then call a raise of about 4x-5x bb which is the worst thing to do.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

Why would u be contemplating folding to a shortstack who hasnt shown too much strength? I would go with a call or reraise for sure, in this situation i'd proly just raise him up.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:00 AM
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I've laid down JJ before when i feel im beat, but in this situation i would feel pretty comfortable getting my money in. The blinds are still small and he is a short stack raiser so he can't do too much damage if u lose the race. I just dont think there's adequate information to assume he has high pockets. everytime i've folded High pockets pf so far i've been right [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

short stack alright...considering he had me covered???? 1020 with the blinds at this level is not a short stack. if i call and lose im out...
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

I guess I am the only one who says fold. However, I definately would have limped in. Short stack? what short stack?
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:44 AM
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Default Re: $11: Easy push was JJ???

oops ur rite i read ur post wrong. sorry bout that. It looks to me like he has low - med pockets. Not likely he will shove all in with QQ-AA but i have seen it. i put him on AK if he doesnt have pockets. I would usually call in this spot and be ahead 80% of the time
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