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Old 12-13-2005, 06:06 PM
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Alright, so I get an email back from Party saying it was not because I had PE installed, but because I looked myself up on their website just for kicks.

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Huh?

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You can look up player stats on their website w/o downloading.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:26 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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they track your http queries over poker-edge.com???
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:58 PM
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they track your http queries over poker-edge.com???

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guess so
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Mike O'Malley/PartyPoker.com Mike O'Malley/PartyPoker.com is offline
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No where does Party say you can't share hand histories.



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At the top of every emailed hand history reads:

Hello <player>,
These hand histories are provided to you solely for your personal use and as an aid for your training and development. You are not permitted to share them with anyone. We reserve the right to cease providing them or apply further restrictions at any time.
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Old 12-14-2005, 05:12 AM
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Default Re: Warning from Party

They did the same with winholdem as well. People were checking out the forums while playing and getting contacted about it.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:37 AM
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No where does Party say you can't share hand histories.



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At the top of every emailed hand history reads:

Hello <player>,
These hand histories are provided to you solely for your personal use and as an aid for your training and development. You are not permitted to share them with anyone. We reserve the right to cease providing them or apply further restrictions at any time.

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Mike,

If you honestly don't want HHs to be shared, why not set up a graphical HH like bodog?
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:55 AM
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TStone,

Unlikely, the most common detection would be to examine the list of running processes for known "bad" process names. Next up would be a registry scan for known "bad" keys.

The packet sniffing approach is problematic on multiple levels and unlikely to be more effective than even the first listed option.

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Old 12-14-2005, 11:34 AM
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Your all a bunch of cheats using poker edge!

PT and even GT+/Ace I can live with but not sharing a central database.

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LOL, the classic "My advantage isn't cheating, but your's is" argument.

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First things first, you made an incorrect assumption that I use PT/GT+ - I dont! I was just stating I can live with other players using them aslong as their pt database is their own work and not a collective effort like PE or sharing PT databases.

Secondly sharing hand History is against the T&C's for many of the poker sites which in turn would mean that sharing PT data is also against the T&C's.

I am personally very much against Party and the other Sites allowing datamining of observed hands. What were they thinking about when they did this eh? It only promotes datamining and collabaration.

Before long (if we dont already) we are going to be facing well written bots using exstensive PT/PE data, allowing the bots to play dyamnically based on the opponent. These bots essentially have a learn mode as they can review all previous history.

IMHO Things like PE and Shared PT databases will be one of the key ingredients for a seuccessful poker bot.

I bet you'll cry when those bots come along, but at the end of the day you will have essentially encouraged it by greed.
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