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Old 12-17-2005, 07:06 PM
damaniac damaniac is offline
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

I don't know how you can claim it is +EV. UTG is a tight-aggressive player. MP and Button we know nothing about. CO is a fish so we have an edge against him anyway, but there is no way there is enough info to just assume this is +EV.
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

The flop is all a little bit 'Barron Vangor Toth' for me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 12-17-2005, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

The mistakes I spotted are:
Raising preflop instead of calling.
Flop is probably OK since the pot is so big.
Going for a checkraise on the river instead of betting and just calling a raise.
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Old 12-18-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

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betting and just calling a raise.

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:50 AM
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

flop call seems +variance
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:14 AM
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Default Re: 38.25BB pot, KQs in the BB, or Let\'s play \"SPOT THE MISTAKES\"

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betting and just calling a raise.

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.

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I agree. If you're going to make super loose flop calls to hit a back door draw, you better get every bet in that you can.

I think the flop isn't OK.. it's atrocious.
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Old 12-18-2005, 03:06 PM
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betting and just calling a raise.[on the river]

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nah, we have to get this capped if we can. i agree with just betting out first though.

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I agree. For some reason, when I wrote the above I was thinking we had a Q high flush, and with that I would probably be afraid to reraise. With a King high I would reraise.
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Old 12-18-2005, 01:42 PM
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How can anyone advocate not capping this river? We have the second nuts.
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Old 12-18-2005, 06:44 PM
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How can anyone advocate not capping this river? We have the second nuts.

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posters are talking about the pre-flop cap
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