inducing a bluff on the turn

[Guruman]

I constantly find myself bluffing the river too much when the turn checks. This time I decided to see if my opponent felt the same way.

SB - Posts small blind $0.50
BB - Posts big blind $1
CO - Posts $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to <font color="blue">hero</font> [9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
UTG - Folds
<font color="blue">hero</font> - Raises $2 to $2
CO - Folds
BUTTON - Calls $2
SB - Calls $1.50
BB - Folds
*** FLOP *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
SB - Checks
<font color="blue">hero</font> - Bets $1
BUTTON - Folds
SB - Calls $1
*** TURN *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SB - Checks
<font color="blue">hero</font> - Checks
*** RIVER *** [3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
SB - Bets $2
<font color="blue">hero</font> - Calls $2

I figured this to be a good spot, since I would have to check through the river if I bet the turn and got called.

[Aaron W.]

It's not bad. I'd prefer doing that with JJ than 99, but 99 is far better than 66. The flush draw isn't scary because it would need to be runner-runner. You should really develop reads on players when you're not in the hand so that you don't waste too much money experimenting when it's your money going in the pot.

[numeri]

Any reads?

I think this might be a better place to bet the turn with fold equity and take the free showdown. I'm still not sure when to apply that play, though.

BTW, there's a nice Absolute converter here. You have to make sure the seats are in order. Follow the directions here. (I'm assuming you're still on Absolute.)

[ninjaunderwear]

I like it. Not really worried about any draws. Compared to betting the turn and checking behind on the river, you lose the same if you're behind but also "earn" 1 more BB when ahead.

Maybe some reads would be helpful, though.

I dont really like it with that hand. I want a hand with outs to make that play. Something like KJh. But maybe I have got it backwards.

[numeri]

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I like it. Not really worried about any draws. Compared to betting the turn and checking behind on the river, you lose the same if you're behind but also "earn" 1 more BB when ahead.

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True - if villain would call the turn when drawing and bet the river after missing. The thing is, a hand like KT (admittedly a worst-case scenario) has 10 outs against us. Do we want to give them a free river?

I don't know. These are just my thoughts. Like I said, I don't really know exactly when to apply the concept of betting the turn and checking behind on the river.

[MrWookie47]

The spot to do this is if a free card can't hurt you very much. Here, you could get borked by a T, J, or a K that might have folded to a turn bet. As Dubya said, this play would be better with JJ. It's also good against players who'll bluff c/r the turn.

[istewart]

I'd fold the river. This isn't inducing a bluff as much as throwing up the white flag as I see it.

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I'd fold the river. This isn't inducing a bluff as much as throwing up the white flag as I see it.

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was waiting for someone to suggest this, it certainly looks like a river fold to me.

that said, i wish i could see the pot size throughout the hand like a good converted PP hand woulda given me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[numeri]

He's getting 5.5:1 on the river. (If my quick arithmetic is correct.)