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Old 12-07-2005, 05:07 PM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

I normally think plays like this are dumb, but I can't think of a better line for a host of reasons. I plan to see if I can make more plays like this in the future.

FWIW, I was folding to a turn 3-bet. On the river I fold if the flush completes and he donks. Probably call otherwise unless it's like a Q or something. If he checks, I was checking behind without further improvement.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>...
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

its a good card to bluff at for sure. really depends on who youre playing against. raising for a free showdown is much better than calling down here against alot of opponents specifically passive ones that can fold hands.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

Assume unknown Party 10/20er, that's all I had to work with.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

I think I like, folding J7 and the like is very hot.

We folding to a 3-bet?
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

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I think I like, folding J7 and the like is very hot.

We folding to a 3-bet?

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FWIW, I was folding to a turn 3-bet

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Old 12-07-2005, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

All I can say is that against an unknown I can't see calling any donked river cards.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:19 PM
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The guy check raised you and then led the turn. What makes you think you have enough chance of being ahead that raising the turn for a free showdown is useful? I really don't see many folks c/r'ing the flop and leading the turn when on a draw.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

I'll post my rationale once I stop 8-tabling in about 40 min. I can't do both.
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Old 12-07-2005, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

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The guy check raised you and then led the turn. What makes you think you have enough chance of being ahead that raising the turn for a free showdown is useful? I really don't see many folks c/r'ing the flop and leading the turn when on a draw.

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At 10/20 I can see just about any player checkraising the flop with just about any draw (this includes A6) and leading the turn with that same draw.

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Old 12-07-2005, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: Raise for a free showdown? ($10/20 5 handed, A3s blind steal)

btw metetron, 3betting this flop and betting turn/checking and calling a river bet = cheaper showdown.
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