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Old 10-05-2005, 04:24 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

His Pokerstars account was also stolen. E-mail from PS security to the guy:

"Hello Mats,

I wanted to give you an update on what I found on my investigation of the
unauthorized use of your account.

Since the last time you told me that you had accessed your account, on
9/26/05, it was not accessed again until 9/29/05. On 9/29/05 at 8:23 PM a
password change was requested and a new password was sent to the email
address registered in your account, mazak14@hotmail.com. Then at 8:24 your
account was accessed for the first time, from a computer that can be traced
back to Pennsylvania, US.

Right after your account was accessed, there was a $150.00 transfer made to
a brand new account named 'PoopTree', created from this same computer.
Account 'TestBigBoot' appears to also have logged in from this same
computer during the time your account was accessed from there.

Then after your account received a transfer for $400.00 they went on and
spent it on the tables. I did not find any dumping or irregular play on my
preliminary review, but I am awaiting the results from a review by our
Poker experts to confirm this. (dom $400 kom från gambler21 efter att jag skinnat honom på kinapoker)

I am trying to get more information from the accounts mentioned above, but I have only gotten bogus replies from one of them. Please let me know if these account names and the fact that they are from Pennsylvania give you any clues as to who they may be. These people must have known your complete address in order to request a new password. But they may have also gotten that information from your email account information.

I would like to speak to you again over the phone to get more details for
my investigation. I will be in the office on Tuesday between 10:00 AM ET
and 6:00 PM ET, please let me know if it would be possible for me to reach
you then and what would be the best time.


Looking forward to your reply.


Regards,

Jorge
PokerStars Security"

Some info about the name and location of the guy using that stars account.
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Old 10-05-2005, 04:48 PM
obsidian obsidian is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

There is absolutely no way $65,000 should be able to be taken out of someone's account without having to verify their identity over the phone or having access to his normal ip & password. I mean requesting a password reset and then logging in from an ip in a different location than the normal one should in itself be a big red flag. Then on top of that making the biggest inter-account transfer possible. I generate somewhere around $7-8k in rake per month, and for that kind of money they should be doing a better job than this to protect my account.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:07 PM
AngusThermopyle AngusThermopyle is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

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and transfers the maximum $8 000 to other accounts and withdraws at once.


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5. You agree that the recipient will have to play the higher of at least 50 raked hands or the numerical equivalent of 25% of the transferred amount in raked hands before withdrawing the transferred money (for example if $50 is transferred then the recipient must play 50 raked hands with that transferred money as 25% of $50 amounts to only 12.5 raked hands).

So they played 2000 raked hands too? Not quite "withdraws at once."
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:11 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

It would be nice if that Party rep here could give us his take on this huge ripoff to one of their players.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:28 PM
StevieG StevieG is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

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There is absolutely no way $65,000 should be able to be taken out of someone's account without having to verify their identity over the phone or having access to his normal ip & password.

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One nice thing about Party being publically traded is that they will really have to address this.

E*Trade is now offering token devices for added protection. They are doing this for a fee, but offer the service free of charge to large accounts. Party could take this course of action, as well.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:40 PM
Luke Montgomery Luke Montgomery is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.


This is just nuts, i read this elsewhere as well. How could they let this happen! The guy is partially responsible though, who the freak leaves $65k in an account, this isn't an insured bank.
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Old 10-05-2005, 05:55 PM
jzpiano14 jzpiano14 is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

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There is absolutely no way $65,000 should be able to be taken out of someone's account without having to verify their identity over the phone or having access to his normal ip & password. I mean requesting a password reset and then logging in from an ip in a different location than the normal one should in itself be a big red flag. Then on top of that making the biggest inter-account transfer possible. I generate somewhere around $7-8k in rake per month, and for that kind of money they should be doing a better job than this to protect my account.

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What stakes do u play and how many tables for 7k a month rakeback???
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:12 PM
Adde Adde is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

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What stakes do u play and how many tables for 7k a month rakeback???

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I generate somewhere around $7-8k in rake per month

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Old 10-05-2005, 06:15 PM
Sponger15SB Sponger15SB is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

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The guy is partially responsible though, who the freak leaves $65k in an account

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Uh, tons and tons and tons of people. [censored] just go on interpoker right now and you can see several people just sitting with $65k combined on a few tables.
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Old 10-05-2005, 06:41 PM
MS Sunshine MS Sunshine is offline
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Default Re: Cyberthiefs stole $65000 from Party poker player.

I'll let the comment that he was some how responsible just because he had this amount of money online pass.

If you regularly play $25 buyin NLH then having $250 online is about the mininum to play multiple tables. Playing $1000 and $2000 games having $20-40K online is common.

MS Sunshine
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