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Old 08-25-2005, 01:02 AM
ReDeYES88 ReDeYES88 is offline
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Default Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

Villan was playing fast and loose, limping with a ton of hands. Trap at times with made hands, probe other times when missed. I think he has a good piece, but how big?

Preflop I don't think there's a need to raise OOP with the stacks the size they are. He's flat called a good share of raises PF with a wide range, and I don't think there's a need to start with a big pot on the flop. Would you act differently?

NL Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee
Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, August 24, 20:48:31 EDT 2005

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: Villan ( $2826 )
Seat 3: ( $670 )
Seat 5: ( $350 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $3749 )
Seat 9: ( $405 )
Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 7c 7h ]
Seat 9 folds.
Villan calls [150].
Seat 3 folds.
Seat 5 folds.
Hero checks.
>You have options at Table 11067 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Kh, Kd ]
Hero checks.
Villan checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
Hero checks.
Villan bets [175].
Hero calls [175].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
Hero bets [275].
>You have options at Table 11067 Table!.
Villan raises [550].

Hero wonders if he should just flat call or shove.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

My initial read on him would be QJ. He saw the free card on the flop, tried to buy it on the turn, and caught his straight on the river? Push?
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

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My initial read on him would be QJ. He saw the free card on the flop, tried to buy it on the turn, and caught his straight on the river? Push?

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Definitely push. The straight is going to pay you off there as well as the unlikelier trips.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:08 AM
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Could be trips or a straight. You've got him beat a huge % of the time here, and he'll call your push with a lot more hands that are losing than winning.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:08 AM
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Nash Clown always raises.
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Old 08-25-2005, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

The real question in my mind is that his Kx might have caught up or he has a bigger PP (yes, as unlikely as that might be). With the other three stacks being so damn short, is a push really the right move?
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

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The real question in my mind is that his Kx might have caught up or he has a bigger PP (yes, as unlikely as that might be). With the other three stacks being so damn short, is a push really the right move?

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you push and lose you still have them all covered (albeit you hafta push into largestack, but everyone will have trouble not you).. you push and win you have almost certain first.. you push and he folds is good too [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

If you push, and he has a straight or trips, its going to more than pay off for the times he has a higher boat. Last night I lost two tournies back to back with set under set... it sucks, and it happens, but no way I'm folding my sets on either occassion.

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Old 08-25-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Monster on the river, but is it big enoush?

I'd shove. If your stacks were reversed, I'd call.
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Old 08-25-2005, 02:37 PM
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I'd shove. If your stacks were reversed, I'd call.

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. .needless to say I didn't spend half a second thinking about it during the hand. I shoved and he quickly called and showed Kx for trips. It wasn't until after the hand that I wondered if I would have been better off just calling.
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