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Old 08-21-2005, 01:59 AM
Biggle10 Biggle10 is offline
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Default Missed value?? (Draw)

Poor player limps UTG. Folded to me in SB. I raise? with QQ. Only UTG calls. Both draw 3. I improve to QQQ. I bet out. UTG raises. Hero....?
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Old 08-21-2005, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Missed value?? (Draw)

I like the raise before the draw. If they're going to limp with shorts you might as well punish them for it. I also like the fact that you didn't get fancy with your draw. I think there's no need false card out of position on a hand where you will usually need to improve to value bet.

After the draw I would 3bet this. Your opponent probably started with a smaller pair than yours, so it's unlikely he improved to better trips than yours.

Just my opinion...
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Old 08-21-2005, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Missed value?? (Draw)

I agree with the 3betting .. if you KNOW that this is the case, that he limps w/ shorts.. then I'd definitely raise and call a cap. Notes are very important. There _are_ players that will limp w/ AA or KK UTG, and that's it. If this person will play shorts, then I like your raises; pre and post.
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Old 08-21-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Missed value?? (Draw)

OK, thanks. I 3-bet. UTG capped. I puke and call. As long as my line was good, I'm happy.
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