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Old 12-09-2005, 02:27 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Am I the only one who thinks bet-calling this river would be pretty bad?

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No. He'll bet for us.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:29 AM
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Am I the only one who thinks bet-calling this river would be pretty bad? Since there's quite a reasonable chance if he's retardedly aggressive on the turn that he'll bet that hand ofr value, a check-call is ok, but I really think bet-calling the river is pretty bad.

Rob

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I agree with Rob.

This reminds me of one of Shillx's game theory situations. He's advocated in micros many times that if you both like your hands and you can't 3bet the river, don't bet it.
For those who don't want to click on the link, the short story is if we check, Villain will bet any hand, winning or losing. If we bet, Villain will raise winning hands or call losing ones. So betting guarantees Villain an extra BB when we're behind and nothing when we're ahead.

It's not perfect since Villain may spook and check behind with a worse hand here, afraid of the board pairing or putting Hero on a sexy, but I don't think he does very often. IMO he checks behind seldom enough for us to c/c here.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:30 AM
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Villain had AA and MHING FWIW
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:36 AM
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I haven't looked at the other responses so excuse me if this is redundant but I would fold preflop. Raising the flop makes sense if you are in late position but do you really want to take the lead betting your draw on the big streets? What will check-raising the flop do? The turn play looks good to me but I would bet out with an aggressive player. River seems fine.
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Old 12-09-2005, 07:11 AM
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Bet call the river.
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:14 PM
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Bet call the river.

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It's already been explained a few times why bet-calling the river is particularly bad here.

Rob
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Old 12-09-2005, 12:21 PM
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I like it. AJ, AA, 99 all possible after turn action.
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Old 12-09-2005, 01:12 PM
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Thank you for that link! Very good post
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