bottom pair in monster after LRR

[newhizzle]

i think i might have [censored] this one up, but maybe not, looking for comments on all streets (especially flop and turn)

SB is 58/33/1.5
UTG+1 is 24/11/2.4
MP3 is 14/8/6
button is 35/8/0.9

Party Poker 5.00/10.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (15.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (14.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB.

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I don't like the flop peel. With an opponent betting on the immediate right, a board with draws (some of which may kill your pair outs), a limp-reraiser still to act behind you, and so on and so forth, I think you really have very few outs here (4 maybe on average, even with the backdoor flush draw), and are almost certainly going to have to pay multiple bets to see the turn. Paying 2 bets into a pot of like 21-25 or so is not going to be sufficient odds to continue on, in my opinion. Your hand also is a reverse implied odds nightmare when you hit, and you'll often find yourself paying off a worse hand even when you hit.

I think I fold the turn. Flop has 2 backdoor draws which die with the turn card.

[W. Deranged]

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Turn seems like an easy fold.

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I think the turn is a very straightforward fold. I didn't even get to that because I figured it sort of went without saying considering I'm advocating folding the flop.