SNGs v. Cash

[microbet]

A little frustrated with a short run of SNGs and I decided to 4 table $25NL.

It sure was easy, and not just easy money. It was easy money, although the stakes were very low. You get 100BBs. It was like all pre-level 1. Seems like 8 tabling those games would be easier than 4 tabling SNGs.

[Seth Money]

I agree with the 25 NL. It's funny cause every once and a while I will sit down in a 25 NL 6 max table and play every hand for the first 10 minutes, just to give the table a sense that I want action and within an hour will have doubled up what I have or more. In one 1 hour session I sat down with 25 and left with 176. And well its nice to be able to do something away from the SnG's every once and a while

[Angelic_Ace]

For me -

SNG's 4-tabling for online

NL cash games for live

[kamrann]

I don't how long you've been playing online for, but it's been about 3 years for me, and I've found that as long as I stick to one type of game long enough, I'll always end up asking that question about another variety after a while.

I've beaten all the games and levels I've played at online for the full three years, but after a while always decided I wasn't beating them enough ($/hr) to accept the boredom level. So I go from NL cash to MTTs to limit cash, from Holdem to Omaha and back, back to NL cash, etc. I've lost track of the number of times I've been fooled into thinking there was more to be made in a different game, just because I switched for a short while and had success over a totally insignificant sample size. The latest for me is multi-tabling the Party SNGs. Once again I really thought I'd found where the easy money was at, until hitting my current 40 buyin drop decimated my $/hr.

Maybe I'm just not as good as I thought. Maybe I need to get luckier. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] But more to the point, I think that in any form of poker, the $EV edge you have over the poor, and even awful player, is simply a lot smaller than you might expect it to be. Switch to $25 NL if you feel like it, but it probably won't end up being very different at all as far as $/hr.

As for your specific point about how easy to multi-table, I would guess that low limit NL cash and PP SNGs (below 215s) are roughly eually easy to multi-table, since 90% of your earning power comes from straight-forward mechanical play without really having to think.

BTW, the fact you mentioned $25 NL suggests to me you're playing low buyin SNGs currently, which would surprise me since you're one of the posters whose opinions I've most respected since coming to this board a few months back. Not that low limit player' opinions shouldn't be respected of course, it's just I had you in my mind as one of the $215'ers.

[chisness]

when i was deciding between cash games and sngs to multi table, it seemed that sngs would be a lot easier because you're not involved in many postflop pots

sngs involve almost always either folding or pushing preflop, which makes them a lot easier to manage

remembering who raised preflop, how all opponents play preflop, and all the other difficult postflop intricacies seems like it'd be very hard if doing over 4 cash games (though 8 or fewer full table games would probably be manageable)

[OrcaDK]

I 12 tabled NL25 at my old 17" TFT without problems, i'm having a tough time 6 tabling $20's. No doubt i can 12 table the $20's in time, but it's just a lot tougher than the NL25 IMHO.

[MegaBet]

You're right, the 25NL games are a doddle. Unlike SNGs, you can afford to sit and wait for a big hand, and more than likely you'll get action on it. The trick I use is when I double up my initial buy in, I bank it and move on to another table. It's just too easy to lose the whole lot to a bad beat or bad read on 1 hand.

[Scuba Chuck]

Kamrann, the same is true of any profession. I feel bad that you find boredom in poker. But, IMO, the best way to approach anything, and particularly poker, is TO GO A MILE DEEP, AND NOT A MILE WIDE. The fact that you have played so many games, styles, etc., you've become a jack of all trades. Good at all, specialist in none.

Just my two cents.

Scuba

[freemoney]

i think theres alot more money in SnGs comparatively then cash games.

[microbet]

I wasn't really thinking it would have a substantially different $/hr, but just that it was easier. 8-tabling SNGs on level 1 would be cake most of the time. Push/fold at the later levels is pretty automatic, but you are still playing a lot of hands and at least considering playing most hands.

As far as what buyin SNGs I play, it is $33 or $55 at the moment. I have been doing well and moving up and hope/expect to keep moving up, but I can only play about 200 SNGs a month because of work and kids, so it will take a while. I certainly appreciate your respect though. I am old and have played some poker for a long time.

I know you weren't bashing on low limit players, so this isn't an argument or anything. There are definitely some awesome posters/players here in the lower buyins and there are a few higher buyin players.......well, I think you know what I mean.