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Re: Very Familiar
This is straight out of the book right? You played it, but it looks exactly like a hand in SSH that I always had a hard time understanding.
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Re: Very Familiar
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This is straight out of the book right? You played it, but it looks exactly like a hand in SSH that I always had a hard time understanding. [/ QUOTE ] It's not straight out of the book. The pot is smaller here. |
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Re: Very Familiar
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[ QUOTE ] This is straight out of the book right? You played it, but it looks exactly like a hand in SSH that I always had a hard time understanding. [/ QUOTE ] It's not straight out of the book. The pot is smaller here. [/ QUOTE ] I don't have the book here. Let's say that we think we'll get a free card here about 85% of the time with a 3 bet. I think that's conservative. What do you think of it now? |
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Let's say that we think we'll get a free card here about 85% of the time with a 3 bet. I think that's conservative. [/ QUOTE ] I think a conservative estimate would've been around 50% of the time. Even when you do get a free card and then hit by the river - you're still going to need to recoup bets with both aggressors on your immediate right. I think you're not going to get the return when you make it there on the river and UTG+1 leads the river and you either raise and hope to get 1 extra BB from him or call to try and get 2BBs (maybe 3) on overcalls. |
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I think a conservative estimate would've been around 50% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] WAY too low crunchy. I've played a few hands in these 2/4 games, and my 3 bets on the flop give me free cards extremely often. 85% is conservative. |
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[ QUOTE ] I think a conservative estimate would've been around 50% of the time. [/ QUOTE ] WAY too low crunchy. I've played a few hands in these 2/4 games, and my 3 bets on the flop give me free cards extremely often. 85% is conservative. [/ QUOTE ] meh - I'm no stranger to the Party 2/4 either and I don't agree. 85% may be close - it's not, IMO, conservative. I just don't think you give can yourself that high of a percentage against unknown opponents. Maybe if you had some decent reads on 1 or two of the players - but not readless against the field. There are plenty of 2/4 players who will cap this for fun from the SB/BB. There's also plenty of 2/4 players who will donk the turn if they hit any pair (some with a small PP). Getting a free (cheap) turn card is great but, it's not the only thing that needs to go right in the rest of the hand. I just don't see how we can justify continuing given our lack of knowledge on our opponents coupled with our relatively weak holding. |
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