When something doesn't "feel" quite right

[SCfuji]

yeah why slow him down =p

[Aaron W.]

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My note on villain is "FPS".

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What does FPS mean?

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Fancy Play Syndrome.

[Aaron W.]

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yeah why slow him down =p

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It's not to slow him down, but to make sure that the other two players don't slide in cheaply with something like QT to have 6 live outs against me.

[sexypanda]

If this guy isn't a complete maniac, I raise the turn and check the river unimproved. I like this move, because I have a little more fold equity with the turn raise and it costs the same to see a showdown. If I think this guy is capable of bluff 3-betting me on the turn, I'd just call down.

Edit: Removed previos "edit" comment, sb could easily not have raised pf with a king. For some reason I thought it was folded to the sb pf. I should learn how to read.

[Aaron W.]

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If this guy isn't a complete maniac, I raise the turn and check the river unimproved. I like this move, because I have a little more fold equity with the turn raise and it costs the same to see a showdown. If I think this guy is capable of bluff 3-betting me on the turn, I'd just call down.

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I don't know about bluff 3-betting, but he might aggressively value bet his 3. Based on the action here and on previous hands, I don't think he would fold. It's a definitely a good line against more sane players.

[deception5]

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If this guy isn't a complete maniac, I raise the turn and check the river unimproved. I like this move, because I have a little more fold equity with the turn raise and it costs the same to see a showdown. If I think this guy is capable of bluff 3-betting me on the turn, I'd just call down.


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I like this line as well.

[MrWookie47]

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call call call has my vote

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I really like the raise on the flop in this hand to fold 6 outers behind you. HU, call call call looks better.

[MrWookie47]

Panda, that's a really good line, too. Hmmm. The raise the turn for a free showdown line I don't use much at all, but I definitely see its merit here.

[sexypanda]

Yea, I picked up this line from reading one of Negreanu's quizes on his site. Most of them are NL, but each quiz is pretty interesting. Here's the one that talks about that line:

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[MrWookie47]

Yeah, I'm familiar with the line. I think it was some of krishan's posts over in HUSH that introduced me to it.

I still am not sure it's strictly better than raising the flop, however. HU, your line is clearly correct. But with 2 people behind us on the flop, I feel like I want to raise and blast them out, or see if the cold call (read: have a K). Do you have any more input as to why you'd raise the turn instead even with the players acting behind you?