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Old 06-03-2005, 04:04 PM
Slick14170 Slick14170 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

This is a completely awful play. Calling with jack six? ur basically in a situation where u wait for the right hand and push and fold everything else. And since u decided to call u must push on flop but he would probably call that anyways however you had two draws at flush.
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Old 06-03-2005, 04:11 PM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

Just check/push on the flop. A high PP will lay down to the ace out there, and you have good odds vs. an ace that flopped top pair. The preflop call is a little dicey.
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Old 06-03-2005, 04:26 PM
Benal Benal is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

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Just check/push on the flop

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That's almost no different than his line of check/calling flop, pushing the turn. He needs to open push that flop to get max folding equity.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:27 PM
TheTimeIsUp TheTimeIsUp is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

Just fold PF. It isn't a sin since it only costs you a bb more, I promise.
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:32 PM
lacky lacky is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

thanks for all the input. my conclusions I guess.

1) I didn’t have enough chips to call and speculate preflop. Makes sense, as I was hitting the under 10x BB point where it is push or fold. If I had 15x or more I still like calling the min raise to see a flop. If I'm way off here, please let me know.

2) Yep, I agree I should have pushed the flop and not messed around. Failing that, I pushed the turn because the straight card was a scare card, and also gave me a open ended straight draw as well as the flush draw. But again, I was trying to play the hand out when I didn't have enough chips.

I think I was just tired enough that I didn’t make the connection that even though I had 200,000 chips it was really no different than an sng with 1000 chips and a 100 bb, and actually less with the ante's. Hard to get used to the idea I'm short stacked with 200k [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'm at 168% ROI after 146 MTT's, with a gain of $20,500, so It is encouraging enough to keep at them, but sometimes I feel like an idiot, and it is a little hard to get used to all the comments from the rail. (why would I really want to know the opinion on a guy with nothing better to do that watch a $11 rebuy he's not playing in?)

I guess the pressure points when I'm not sure what to do is probably why MTT's interest me so much right now. After thousands of sng's it's all kind of routine.

Steve
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Old 06-03-2005, 05:54 PM
Blackjack Blackjack is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

I hate the flop call.. and the call preflop - Especially at the final table with only 9 bbs.
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Old 06-03-2005, 06:27 PM
Skjonne Skjonne is offline
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Default Re: Stars $11 rebuy final table hand, reasonable, or awful?

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.........and it is a little hard to get used to all the comments from the rail. (why would I really want to know the opinion on a guy with nothing better to do that watch a $11 rebuy he's not playing in?)......

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I've wondered that my self sometimes. It's truly amazing how many nice people there is. Wanting to share their deep thoughts on an $10 tourney that they (again) left hours ago.
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