77 flop decision

[mike l.]

live 20-40 okay game. i have 77 in c/o. sometimes laggy fishy player raises, i 3 bet, decent semi-taggish sb who thinks i play okay caps it, we both call. 3 of us.

the flop is KT6 rainbow. sb bets, next guy calls, what's my play and why?

[BWebb]

Fold. You don't have the best hand and you don't have odds to call.

[Your Mom]

Fold. You're probably beat and if you aren't, you are probably going to be beat by the time you get to the river. If behind, you have 2 outs. Time to move on.

[mike l.]

i did something i used to do too much but now dont do enough in these scenarios. i raised.

any good reasons to do that??

[oreogod]

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i did something i used to do too much but now dont do enough in these scenarios. i raised.

any good reasons to do that??

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I was just going to reply that my first inclination was to raise actually. But Ive been playing a ton of shorthanded lately, so that may be why.

Are u checking behind on the turn or betting?

[tpir90036]

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i did something i used to do too much but now dont do enough in these scenarios. i raised.

any good reasons to do that??

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You have ESP and know that your opponents have QQ and 99 and will both fold on the turn???

[mike l.]

"You have ESP and know that your opponents have QQ and 99 and will both fold on the turn???"

maybe they have some other hands too right?

[tpir90036]

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"You have ESP and know that your opponents have QQ and 99 and will both fold on the turn???"

maybe they have some other hands too right?

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Of course, I was joking... *but*, when I read this:

"semi-taggish sb who thinks i play okay caps it"

I certainly don't expect to be ahead very often if ever. Is he really capping with AJ out of the blinds?

I don't think seeing a turn card is a mistake... but I am not sure what raising accomplishes in this spot.

[Ryno]

If the SB is good he might suspect Mike is light. So the SB's range is wider than that. The fishy one could have a lot of things, and probably doesn't have a K. There are a ton of hands he could have that make a gutshot/OESD with the K and T, that he would just call the flop with.

The SB's bet tells you nothing, it is an autobet.

This is basically a game of chicken that you hope to win. If SB 3-bets the flop you'd probably have to yield on the turn unimproved.

[lil feller]

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i did something i used to do too much but now dont do enough in these scenarios. i raised.

any good reasons to do that??

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What does the SB think of the LAG PFR? Is he capping light here? Will he fold QQ or JJ? How likely is he to 3 bet?

I think you can make a case for all 3 options here. You're getting like 15:1 on a call, and you're closing the action, and you have position the rest of the hand. Thats worth a lot. If, by some miracle the turn is a 7 you have to think your good most of the time and you're probably going to get a fair amount of action. Combine that with the possibility (albeit small) that you're currently in front and I think you need to see the turn card.

The real question is how likely it is the SB will 3 bet, and whether he'll do it with anything that doesn't beat you. If he 3bets you have to call, but it would suck to have to do that and still not know where you're at in the hand (I can't imagine calling a turn bet if you get 3 bet and miss?). If he's the type that will only call w/ a whiffed AQ, then I think raising is good. If he'd 3bet no pair to put pressure on the fish, then I like a peel, and see what happens on the turn.

thoughts?

lf