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#32
08-13-2005, 06:45 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
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so what did Jason end up doing? and what did you have Entity? [/ QUOTE ] Jason played this hand well. He called down. I had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and was hoping he would raise for a free showdown. The reason I asked people to post here before reading there is Chris Daddy Cool's advice is so spot-on in this situation that I didn't want people just reading his advice and saying "oh, ok, I call," even though that's the correct play here. There are situations in which Jason should be folding against me here but with the way past hands had played and our relative lack of playing against each other, I like calling down now. Rob 
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#33
08-13-2005, 07:35 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
If I'm actually allowing myself to think about a hand while it's in progress, I call down. There's very little chance that I'm going to fold something with showdown value on that board when the table is only 4-handed.
This is a line that can mean so many things, and it's all dependent on past hands (obviously). Personally, I'll use this line for a lot of reasons: 1) I have enough of a hand that I want to put the villain to the test, but I have no problem folding if played back at; 2) I'm trying to illicit a call down by making the other guy curious as to what the hell I could have; 3) I have a monster and I'm hoping to bet/3-bet. I'll also use this line just to change it up. I don't want to fall into the trap of constantly C/Ring hands OOP; I think mixing in some flop/turn leads can disguise your current and future hand(s).
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#34
08-13-2005, 07:51 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
if you had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], why were you hoping he would raise for a free showdown, he is charging you more on your draw, and if you miss he will probly call a bet on the river anyway
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#35
08-13-2005, 07:54 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
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if you had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], why were you hoping he would raise for a free showdown, he is charging you more on your draw, and if you miss he will probly call a bet on the river anyway [/ QUOTE ] So he could 3-bet the turn and fold my hand.
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#36
08-13-2005, 07:54 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
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if you had J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], why were you hoping he would raise for a free showdown [/ QUOTE ] Because I was planning on 3-betting. The very term "raise for a free showdown" implies that he isn't comfortable putting any more money into the pot.
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#39
08-13-2005, 08:02 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
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so in that case if im up against entity ill keep in mind that if he 3-bets a turn im capping with ace high [/ QUOTE ] It's not that simple; he's mixing it up a lot.
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#40
08-13-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Crossposted from HUSH -- a turn decision for jason_t.
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so in that case if im up against entity ill keep in mind that if he 3-bets a turn im capping with ace high [/ QUOTE ] Brilliant idea. I'd be more than happy to give you my Party name if you're really interested in that. If you're 4-betting anything besides AA, 88, or 55 on this turn you're going to be losing money in the longrun. Rob
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