99 LP

schwza · #1 06-22-2005, 01:25 PM

50+5.

the BB is very loose, and the button is very aggro.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP1 (t1255)
MP2 (t1015)
MP3 (t950)
Hero (t945)
Button (t825)
SB (t1390)
BB (t535)
UTG (t985)
UTG+1 (t855)
UTG+2 (t1245)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises to t60, Button raises to t150, 1 fold, BB calls t135, Hero calls t90.

Flop: (t460) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t385 (All-In), Hero?

Chief911 · #2 06-22-2005, 01:27 PM

Calls. He hits his flush, and doubles through you?

Give me 3 good reason not to call there?
Nick

Luke · #3 06-22-2005, 01:30 PM

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Give me 3 good reason not to call there?

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Well one is that you still have the button/PF re-raiser to act behind you.

Luke

transmitt · #4 06-22-2005, 01:32 PM

The BB push doesn't scare me too much, the button who re-raised me pre-flop does.

BPA234 · #5 06-22-2005, 01:43 PM

I believe that your flop play depends on your read of Button preflop. If you called hoping to hit a set, thinking that button had overpair, than you need to fold. If you called thinking the button had overcards, than you push.

Luke · #6 06-22-2005, 02:02 PM

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I believe that your flop play depends on your read of Button preflop. If you called hoping to hit a set, thinking that button had overpair, than you need to fold. If you called thinking the button had overcards, than you push.

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My guess is that schwaza decided to take the flop and see how the aggressive button reacted. Then his plans got all screwed up when the BB came out betting.

Luke

A_PLUS · #7 06-22-2005, 02:02 PM

I think foldig is out of the question. So, either call and hope Button calls behind with AJ, or push. Given the size of the pot relative to your stack, I push.

Crispy · #8 06-22-2005, 02:27 PM

I second that push.

schwza · #9 06-22-2005, 02:50 PM

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Calls. He hits his flush, and doubles through you?

Give me 3 good reason not to call there?
Nick

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what do we think the BB is pushing here? he's loose, but i don't think he's so loose pre-flop as to call with an 8 except maybe A8. i think his most likely hand is something like Jh Th. if i knew that were his hand, what would i do? if i knew the button were going to fold, it'd be an easy call. but with him lurking back there and a reasonably likely overpair, i think it's close and probably a fold (i don't expect him to lay down JJ even to a push and re-push).

as another poster said, i'm not really worried about the BB too much, although he is at least drawing live against me. i think the chances that the button has an overpair are reasonably high, and if he does, he stacks me for much more than i'm playing with the BB for. since i think i'm only a modest favorite against BB's range, i don't want to risk the button having a big PP. maybe at the time i discounted the button's aggressiveness too much and should have figured he was very likely to just have overs. but i folded. and button folded.

one thing that was on my mind in this hand was that when the boards disagree with me, it's almost always because i didn't make a fold post-flop.

btw, does anyone push pre-flop?

gumpzilla · #10 06-22-2005, 03:02 PM

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btw, does anyone push pre-flop?

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Following a cold-call of a reraise, even by a somewhat loose player, I'm not that enthusiastic about pushing here.