Can you think up a situation...

[fimbulwinter]

in which you're "behind" on the turn (have a worse made hand) but are a favorite to win the hand (in holdem)?

I can only come up with one such general setup, but i'm sure there must be more...

fim

my answer in white below:

<font color="white"> board contains a pair, he holds a low pair and you hold two overs and an OESFD.

Like board: 3s 3d Jh Th
You: Qh Kh
Him: 2s 2d </font>

[BluffTHIS!]

How do you figure yourself a favorite here? You have two overcards and an open-ended straight flush draw for the following outs:
-3 Ks and 3Qs =6
-7 flush outs (not the 2h or 3h which fill him)
-6 straight outs (the Ah and 9h already counted as flush outs);

for a total of 19 outs. Since there are 44 unseen cards, this means you have less than 1/2 the remaining deck with only one card to come and are not in fact a favorite in this situation.

[mostsmooth]

you didnt count the Jacks and Tens

[damaniac]

A J or T counterfeits villain's hand.

[fimbulwinter]

can you ifx this one somehow?

6s 5h 4h 3h

him Td 2d
you 6h 6c

fim

[fimbulwinter]

slightly better than previous

3h 3d Jh Th

Qc Kh
2h 2s

is it possible to have more than 25 outs?

fim

[bernie]

[ QUOTE ]
in which you're "behind" on the turn (have a worse made hand) but are a favorite to win the hand (in holdem)?


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Add more players and you can add more hands that, collectively, you are a favorite against. It isn't that common, however. Usually part of being the 'favorite' is the factor of semibluffing and the possibility of making someone fold. But that's a little different.

Like you have top set, 4 people have a flush on the turn. This happened to me long ago. It sparked 2 or 3 in depth threads looking into jamming draws on the turn.

Openended str8flush draws are another when you have 3+ players in. Read of opponents hands depending.

b

[PairTheBoard]

Nicely done. If there's something better I'd like to see it.

PairTheBoard

[Zetack]

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A J or T counterfeits villain's hand.

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Ok, I feel dumb, but I don't get it. Unless the villain's low pair is specifically a pair of twos how does a J or 10 counterfit his hand? Say he has a pair of fives, for example. A jack gives him Jacks and Fives with a ten kicker and our hero has jacks and threes with a King kicker. Villain wins right?

Or am I missing something obvious?

[Acestarfighter]

Highlight the white writing and it shows he is holding a pair of 2s.