Just a PF Question

toss · #1 09-24-2005, 03:17 PM

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Hero...

PF raiser is 70/17.75/.87 over 100 hands. Coldcaller is a calling station. We're in MP3, CO is unknown, and Button is 30/16/1.32. Do we get involved? If so do we call or 3-bet?

jazzcom · #2 09-24-2005, 03:25 PM

Pretty easy fold. Q-J is just dominated by too many holdings

-jazz

#3 09-24-2005, 03:28 PM

Seems like you really like QJo [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I would fold this, IMO we're going to be put in some tough postflop situations with a marginal hand, especially if this ends up being 5 handed or something.

If UTG+1 was a bigger maniac I maybe could see 3 betting to isolate, but even then I would like a hand that has more showdown value.

Redd · #4 09-24-2005, 03:33 PM

Easy fold imo. 17% pfr isn't that high.

hicherbie · #5 09-24-2005, 04:02 PM

its a pretty junky hand for this spot imo. id fold it.

TheHammer24 · #6 09-24-2005, 04:10 PM

You're best hope is for Villian to be holding a hand like 66, and get over aggressive with it post flop when you connect. Otherwise, you are looking for a flop of QJX when he has AQ. You're hand is dominated often, I don't think you can get involved here unless his pfr was 30%, in which case I would three bet.

toss · #7 09-24-2005, 04:39 PM

Looks like everyone agrees that QJo is too weak or a pfr17 isn't high enough. I ended up donking along too, Button 3-bet, the LAG caps, and well I don't even want to describe the rest of the hand.

HolyBejeesus · #8 09-24-2005, 04:52 PM

My VPIP is around 20 and I rarely play QJo. I'd look for someone with a PFR around 30 before I started coldcalling raises with it.