$2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er

[snowbank]

I was villain in this hand, just wondering what some of you thought of my play in this hand.

I thought it was very good. Like I mentioned to you on our way to eat, the relatively cheap flop bet made it look like you were trying to trap me with JJ or 1010, which is why I didn't raise you. The only hands I figured I beat at the time was AQ or KK. 1010, JJ, AA, AJ have me way behind, and althought I doubted you had them, KQ and A10 also have me way behind.

I personally love the turn check. I think 95% of players bet that turn in my situation, seeing you bet small on the flop and check the turn after you make a hand that would be nearly impossible for me to put you on. I think it's a huge moneymaker.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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I personally love the turn check. I think 95% of players bet that turn in my situation, seeing you bet small on the flop and check the turn after you make a hand that would be nearly impossible for me to put you on. I think it's a huge moneymaker.

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I don't. You check the turn and now face a pot sized bet on the river, or more. Now what do you do? You checked to induce a bluff. Did you get it? And what if he didn't hit on the turn. He's still going to check, and now you're letting him draw for free. And it is a super easy instamuck if he wants to put any more money in the pot after you bet the turn so it makes the hand a lot easier to play. I don't like your turn check that much.

Only time I really like it is if he is very aggro and will bluff check/raise the turn and also bluff the river very often when you check the turn. If this guy is the tightest guy in the casino (which you didn't mention) betting the turn is definitely better. Why let him draw at a 5-8 outer for free? And yeah, you probably have a muck if he pots the river, but you MAY have induced a bluff which would be pretty bad.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I just realized that I'm retarded and thought you were saying you loved your OWN turn check. Now that I realize you were saying you love HIS turn check, I don't love that either. There is a very high likelihood that you are drawing live against him either with a set or a gutshot. He should bet the turn to protect and to build the pot, hoping to get raised.

[Gary Stevenson]

when he called me on the flop i was pretty much deciding to give up the pot...but then to my surprise i hit my hand on the turn. I was in between betting the turn or checking, I thought checking might give him the idea that i had KK/QQ or air and would that I would give it up to a bet

[soah]

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I thought checking might give him the idea that i had KK/QQ or air and would that I would give it up to a bet

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Wouldn't this cause him to check though?