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Old 03-01-2005, 07:15 AM
thirddan thirddan is offline
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Default Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

3 loose limpers and LP raises (stats are 21VPIP/7PFR/1.5Agg), hero is on button with QJs....BB is 20VPIP/5PFR...

Hero calls, yes?
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

No, I fold this. Against someone who raises PF 7% of the time, QJ is dominated. Your only hope is the flush draw, and even with 4 people (BB and 3 limpers) calling the raise, you aren't looking great. Move on to the next hand.
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

hmm, what about KQs or JTs?
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

I'll often cold-call with KQs, depending on some other factors. With the reads you've given, I think KQs is worth a cold-call, but I would play it very cautiously after the flop. If I don't get a flush draw and the flop is, say, Qxx and I'm meeting great resistance, I wouldn't press the hand.

I fold JTs.
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:36 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

how many limpers would it take for you to play QJs or TJs right after the raiser?
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:40 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

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how many limpers would it take for you to play QJs or TJs right after the raiser?

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I wouldn't want to put an exact number on it since it all kinda depends, but if, say, 6 people limped and the CO raised and I'm on the button... I might consider it. But I don't know. I really dislike cold-calling. If the raiser is a maniac, I would 3-bet KQs. If the raiser is relatively tight, I'd fold regardless of the limpers. When I have QJ or JT, any flop outside of a Broadway straight rainbow is going to get me into trouble against a 7% PFR's range of raising hands: AA-TT, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ.
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Old 03-01-2005, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: Quick Preflop Question...QJs...

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3 loose limpers and LP raises (stats are 21VPIP/7PFR/1.5Agg), hero is on button with QJs....BB is 20VPIP/5PFR...

Hero calls, yes?

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I call.
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:11 AM
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6 people limped and the CO raised and I'm on the button

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This must be a time to call cold!
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Old 03-01-2005, 08:47 AM
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I probably call this. Suited broadways with position are too fun in a multiway pot to just fold.
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