party $2k NL river overbet

zombies kill · #1 10-11-2005, 06:17 PM

my notes on villian straight up say "idiot - makes weird plays". does that make this standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($1970)
Button ($2654.50)
SB ($2090)
BB ($2419)
Hero ($3553)
UTG+1 ($2000)
MP1 ($1550)
MP2 ($2256.50)
MP3 ($647)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero raises to $60, 3 folds, MP3 calls $60, 3 folds, BB calls $40.

Flop: ($190) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $100, MP3 folds, BB calls $100.

Turn: ($390) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $425, Hero calls $425.

Final Pot: $1240

radioheadfan · #2 10-11-2005, 06:55 PM

He probably has ace-trash, but I look him up here small fraction of the time.

Where's the overbet?

#3 10-11-2005, 07:01 PM

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my notes on villian straight up say "idiot - makes weird plays". does that make this standard?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO ($1970)
Button ($2654.50)
SB ($2090)
BB ($2419)
Hero ($3553)
UTG+1 ($2000)
MP1 ($1550)
MP2 ($2256.50)
MP3 ($647)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero raises to $60, 3 folds, MP3 calls $60, 3 folds, BB calls $40.

Flop: ($190) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $100, MP3 folds, BB calls $100.

Turn: ($390) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($390) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $425, Hero calls $425.

Final Pot: $1240

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I don't see how "idiot - makes weird plays" means he doesn't have an A here. You're not giving us much of a read here. We don't know wtf that note means.

I would fold the river. You're not really committed.

zombies kill · #4 10-11-2005, 07:12 PM

the $425 open-bet into a $380 pot after a turn check? i call that an overbet... figure most do

zombies kill · #5 10-11-2005, 07:28 PM

it means hes an idiot and is capable of making some hopeless or dangerous bluffs or heavy sandbagging. fps. you dont run across at least a couple of these people on a daily basis?

and i dont think being committed or not really has anything to do with this hand. its more simply a question of A or no A imo.

Gregg777 · #6 10-11-2005, 08:01 PM

With your notes on villian, with this line, you can easily put him on an ace trying to figure out how to extract $ out of you.

He lets you lead, when you slow down, he doesn't want you getting away for free on the river.

I would fold.

flawless_victory · #7 10-11-2005, 10:16 PM

wow, you are buddy list material dude...

zombies kill · #8 10-11-2005, 10:54 PM

are you serious?

zombies kill · #9 10-11-2005, 10:57 PM

he had 33

it becomes clear when i check through on the turn that i dont have an ace. with that being obvious, what would posess someone with an ace or better to bet out $425 into a $380 pot? am i the only one who recognizes this?
a good player does this... i think monster. a bad player does it... and i think bluff.

durrrr · #10 10-11-2005, 11:03 PM

I call here quite often, but i think it might be a leak.