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Old 06-16-2005, 05:07 AM
spentrent spentrent is offline
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

EDIT: Forgot to add one: "Always play for first" was a huge leak that I've since plugged.

Is that a really a leak or is it more of a variance monster? I've found that my long-term return makes up for the hellish swings. I'm having lotsa 4ths and lotsa 1sts.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

My leak is playing too tight in the middle/late game when I'm in the middle of a craptacular week (or two) (or three). Which only compounds the problem.

A related problem is playing higher than my bankroll wants me to play.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:19 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

Two things:

1. Not pushing enough on or near the bubble.
2. Broken luckbox.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:26 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

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EDIT: Forgot to add one: "Always play for first" was a huge leak that I've since plugged.

Is that a really a leak or is it more of a variance monster? I've found that my long-term return makes up for the hellish swings. I'm having lotsa 4ths and lotsa 1sts.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well, let me clarify. Of course you play for first as much as you can, but sometimes it's just not appropriate. Consider a hand such as this:

Buyin: $11s-$33s

Blinds 100/200

UTG: t200
You: t1200
SB: t4000
BB: t2600

UTG folds, you look down and see A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. BB has been reasonably tight, but SB has been prone to make loose calls.

While ATo is probably the best hand preflop here, the correct move is to fold. If you push and double up here, you have a legitimate run at first. However, UTG blinds off his whole stack next hand. Pushing this might be +cEV, but is definitely -$EV.

This is probably obvious to anyone that plays SNGs a lot, but I just wanted to give mention to this type of hand. This is a type of hand that requires you to concentrate on getting ITM first, instead of going for a win.

EDIT: Changed AJo to ATo for a more clear example. Also, added buyin level.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

in a 55+ im still shoving this more than likely. its different when making a call, but pushing, ill do it almost all day. holla
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:33 AM
DasLeben DasLeben is offline
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

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in a 55+ im still shoving this more than likely. its different when making a call, but pushing, ill do it almost all day. holla

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Alright, I should have specified buyin. We're talking $11s-$33s full of donks. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:36 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

well, im not so sure then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] i suppose if they are calling every 2, then its a fold. holla
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

raising with AQs or AK, then making 125/150 continuation bet on missed flop into a field of 3-4 people... lol (sometimes it works!!)

I tend to overplay AQs in general early.. which is odd cuz i fold AJ and A10 like the plague..
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:11 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

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raising with AQs or AK, then making 125/150 continuation bet on missed flop into a field of 3-4 people... lol (sometimes it works!!)

I tend to overplay AQs in general early.. which is odd cuz i fold AJ and A10 like the plague..

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you have bigger ones than that [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 06-16-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: What leak has cost you the most $$ in SnGs?

biggest sng leak.. hmm.. honestly? playing above the roll, and being TOO agressive on the bubble. not so bad i guess, but can make swings pretty huge, especially 12 tabling. holla
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