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[SA-Bishop]

The reason I did not bet the river is because I did not think any worse hands would call my middle pair. Bad logic?

[sfer]

AK will call all the live long day. Read Clarkmeister's comments in this thread.

[dfscott]

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AK will call all the live long day. Read Clarkmeister's comments in this thread.

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I wish I had read that thread before I played this hand tonight, but I just couldn't believe it with 3 opponents calling down.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls,

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (11.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 11.50 BB, between Hero, CO, Button and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Hero (11.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Js 7c (high card, jack).
Hero shows 8d 8s (one pair, eights).
CO shows 6h 4h (one pair, fours).
Button shows As Qh (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.50 BB. </font>

Ironic that I was saying BTR earlier in this thread. Oh well, do as I say, not as I do...

[Brian]

Hi Bishop,

Logic doesn't apply when dealing with illogical players. If you ever have to think about betting the River, go ahead and do it. It's rarely incorrect. I know I've bled away many big bets over the past year by checking it down, seeing their Ace-high or bottom pair, and thought "Well, it was only a big bet, and he may not have even called, and in the long run, sometimes he'll have a better hand than me, so checking it down wasn't all too bad." Wrong.

-Brian

[sfer]

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I know I've bled away many big bets over the past year by checking it down, seeing their Ace-high or bottom pair, and thought "Well, it was only a big bet, and he may not have even called, and in the long run, sometimes he'll have a better hand than me, so checking it down wasn't all too bad." Wrong.


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Brian is so right. A large part of your profit will come from value betting where most players are too timid. Not value betting in these spots in order to avoid the hugely rare river raise/checkraise will cost you a lot in the long run.