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Old 12-08-2005, 06:14 PM
Vetstadium Vetstadium is offline
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Default KK preflop question

Is this an easy fold at the Party $55's? I am one from button with KK, it is 5th hand of tourn 3 limpers at 15 one raise of 125 I make it 275 and all in from SB and original raiser calls.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

I always post this hand when someone asks about folding KK preflop. This was from a $55. Sucks that I lost though.

***** Hand History for Game 2972657227 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17095588 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Thursday, November 03, 01:38:49 EDT 2005
Table Table 68031 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Deceptikon ( $970 )
Seat 9: valorous ( $1380 )
Seat 6: ILIKESCOTCH2 ( $390 )
Seat 5: yeedogger ( $1255 )
Seat 4: empireny ( $2942 )
Seat 3: grizabe ( $1130 )
Seat 2: OreoMonster ( $835 )
Seat 10: accentprpl5 ( $1098 )
Trny:17095588 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to yeedogger [ Kh Kc ]
ILIKESCOTCH2 folds.
valorous is all-In.
accentprpl5 folds.
Deceptikon is all-In.
OreoMonster is all-In.
grizabe folds.
empireny folds.
yeedogger is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 4d, 3d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3s ]
yeedogger shows [ Kh, Kc ] two pairs, kings and threes.
valorous shows [ Td, Tc ] two pairs, tens and threes.
Deceptikon shows [ Kd, Ac ] a straight, ace to five.
OreoMonster shows [ Jd, Jh ] two pairs, jacks and threes.
valorous wins 125 chips from side pot #3 with two pairs, tens and threes.
yeedogger wins 570 chips from side pot #2 with two pairs, kings and threes.
Deceptikon wins 405 chips from side pot #1 with a straight, ace to five.
Deceptikon wins 3390 chips from the main pot with a straight, ace to five.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

I don't play $55, at least not yet, but what the Heell, why not?
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:33 PM
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Never fold KK preflop, is the motto I think we should use. You see AKo, AKs, QQ, JJ, 10 10, way too often to make it +EV to always play KK until the flop.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:36 PM
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I was saying push it-sorry if that wasn't clear.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

The stacks are just too shallow to fold KK in an SNG. I have never done it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:51 PM
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Unless you're 100% sure you're beat by rockets, push them
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

If someone has AA, there's a 90% chance you're out of the tournament. Assuming the hands actually played, there's a better than 50/50 shot you're out. True you might quadruple up, but do you think it is worth the risk?
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

This is never the case, unless you have EXTENSIVE hh's on villian, and this is the ONLY hand villian EVER plays this way.
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Old 12-08-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: KK preflop question

You have way better odds than 25% here, since it's to quadruple up, I think calling is +EV (by a lot).
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