Future of RakeBack at Party Skins

[LuvDemNutz]

I just got this email from my PokerNow affiliate. Can anyone substantiate the part about affiliates not being able to track INDIVIDUAL rake stats.

"We regret to inform you that the PokerNOW rake back
plan is officially over.

PokerNOW has become a fully fledged part of Party
Poker and all current PokerNOW Affiliate Agreements
have been terminated. Luckily, PokerNOW did keep
their word and has paid us for February so you will
receive that money by this Friday (4/29/05).
Unfortunately, this also means that there will be no
future payments towards your PokerNOW rake back plan.

Party/IGM has also taken the next step towards their
goal of completely eliminating rake back at all the
skins. Party recently started withholding affiliate
stats on individual trackers. This means there is no
possible way for a Party affiliate to tell how much
rake each individual player has generated.

We currently have affiliate agreements with Eurobet
and Empire Poker, but truly believe that Party/IGM
will definitely be putting a stop to rake back at all
the skins very soon. For this reason we are hesitant
to sign-up alot of our PokerNOW players at Eurobet and
Empire, just to have the same situation happen.

That being said, please let us know if you still want
to sign-up for Eurobet and/or Empire to keep receiving
Party/IGM skin rake back for however long it does
last. We will consider your request on an individual
basis and accept a limited number of new sign-ups....."

[Wyers]

[ QUOTE ]
That being said, please let us know if you still want
to sign-up for Eurobet and/or Empire to keep receiving
Party/IGM skin rake back for however long it does
last. We will consider your request on an individual
basis and accept a limited number of new sign-ups....."

[/ QUOTE ]

Reeks of scare mongering in an attempt to drum up new business.

At least I hope that's all this is...

[TxSteve]

i did recently have to sign a long contract detailing that i would affiliate EXCLUSIVELY for empire (what i did anyway).

Since they were having me sign contracts and fax them somewhere...it is my belief that Empire will continue to support affiliates for at least a while longer.

[Wyers]

[ QUOTE ]
i did recently have to sign a long contract detailing that i would affiliate EXCLUSIVELY for empire (what i did anyway).

Since they were having me sign contracts and fax them somewhere...it is my belief that Empire will continue to support affiliates for at least a while longer.

[/ QUOTE ]

That's good to know as my "home base" is Empire. I extend my business to the other sites when a decent bonus opportunity rears it's head, however as far as rakeback goes... Empire is it for me.

[Richter]

[ QUOTE ]


That's good to know as my "home base" is Empire. I extend my business to the other sites when a decent bonus opportunity rears it's head, however as far as rakeback goes... Empire is it for me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Same here. This is what I got from my affiliate.

I read a # of posts by party poker people that said "This only applies to Party poker"

it looks like status quo for Empire at least for the moment.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ead.php?t=5798

[kenberman]

[ QUOTE ]
i did recently have to sign a long contract detailing that i would affiliate EXCLUSIVELY for empire (what i did anyway).

Since they were having me sign contracts and fax them somewhere...it is my belief that Empire will continue to support affiliates for at least a while longer.

[/ QUOTE ]

Party holds the cards in this game. Don't be surprised when your rakeback with Empire ends soon. Party is dead set against it.

[otctrader]

If Party is dead set on eliminating rakeback at the skins because it cannabilizes their business, it seems rational from their standpoint.

But I don't understand the double standard on their own (Party proper) affiliates; they're killing individual trackers, yet seem to remain chummy with certain "gift certificate" rake back operators that publicly advertise with impunity?

Can anyone shed light on this? FWIW I'm not anti-rakeback nor do I have anything against the gift certificate programs; I'm just curious what will happen going forward.

[lehighguy]

Party wants people back at party. If they offered a good rakeback program it would be a lot simpler but they don't.

[Smackdab]

[ QUOTE ]
yet seem to remain chummy with certain "gift certificate" rake back operators that publicly advertise with impunity?

[/ QUOTE ]

INCORRECT. Here is a portion of the email I recieved from RakeReturns which you will note asked for and received Party's permission to use gift certificates as an incentive.

<font color="red"> As you may be aware, on Friday, Party decided to take all rakeback affiliates' trackers, and disable them. This means that while we will still be paid for your play, we can no longer track exactly who has contributed what.

We are of course taking this up with Party, as we:
1) Pay by gift certificates, not cash
2) Have permission from Party to do the above
3) Bring in many "regular" players through BonusWhores.com

However, it is possible they will not honor their agreement with us. It is due to this tumultuous situation that RakeReturns.com is officially ending the rakeback program at Party Poker, effective today, April 25th.

</font>

[PokerBob]

As of right now there is nothing to worry about and we don’t see rakeback ending anytime soon. In fact, our site is expanding. You really have to take what a lot of posters say with a grain of salt.