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Old 09-06-2005, 02:17 PM
KramerTM KramerTM is offline
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Default Re: Auto fold program

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I would say that a bot is a program that played the entire hand, not just folding preflop.

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Wrong, but OK.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Auto fold program

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I created one and it worked pretty well, but it basically useless at limits above 5/10 and maybe below. The problem is that you should consider stealing with just about anything against the right kind of players from late position. I just wasn't interested in the added element of "not folding" when you have a stealing opportunity. Although it may seem like a great idea, its not quite as helpful as you'd imagine, because 1/5 of the time (at a 10-handed table) you're in a blind.

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It should offcause have the abillity to just notify me when I'm in the blinds or first to act in LP.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:21 PM
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Ethics [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-06-2005, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Auto fold program

Spend the observation time getting reads on your opposition. It's called getting better.
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Old 09-06-2005, 05:21 PM
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Once you automate any part of your play, you're a bot.

A fairly EV neutral bot in this case, but a bot.
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Old 09-07-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: Auto fold program

Some of the "Build your own" Bots use AutoIT and I think it would be relatively simple to take one of these and adapt it to do what you want - if you understand programming.

But the others are right - unless you're very careful/sneaky, using AutoIT can get you banned.

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Old 09-07-2005, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Auto fold program

AutoIT is comparable to VB, would having VB installed get me banned? What about a C++ compiler, what about Perl or Apache?

Not to mention that you could just compile it to an exe and you wouldn't even need AutoIT installed.

To the OP, I created this exact program about 2 weeks ago (strange enough) but I only programmed it to work with 1 site. I'm constantly switching sites and chasing bonuses, so I just don't think it's worth the time to program it to work with the majority of sites. It'd need constant maintenance too.

I think it's just easier to 4 table and use the auto fold buttons.
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Old 09-07-2005, 06:15 PM
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Default There\'s A Reason Talented People Build Bots

I'll just give a personal example:

I make 100 trades/day on the NYSE...
And make about $1,000/day...
And I make money about 80% of trading days.

Now...
I am not a "great trader" - just a "very good" trader.
I used to trade in the now defunct Toronto Stock Exchange Futures pit...
So I have known many natural "great traders".


BUT...
Several computers...
And some very elaborate proprietary software that I have developed over 10 years...
Allow me to be ** very profitable **.

After researching poker for 5-6 months...
Pretty much the same thing applies to Online Poker...
SNGs in particular.

A "very good" poker player assisted by the right proprietary software...
Can generate the income of a "great player"...
And with somewhat less variance.

There is a large group of computer engineer types...
Who believe that "collusion" is cheating...
But view "computer assisted play" as OK and inevitable.

Also people from the stock trading world...
Where Automated Trading Systems are ubiquitous...
Do not view "computer assisted play" as unethical.

Also...
And this may come as a great shock to you...
But there are a lot of computer engineer types...
That would rather spend 1000 hours of fascinating work building a Bot...
Than spending 40 soul-destroying minutes times 1,000 or 10,000...
Playing slo mo poker with the idiots at the $11s.

Bots are here to stay...
And are just building momentum.

Eventually...
They will be part of the online scenery...
Just like program trading on the NYSE.

It's a battle Party Poker cannot win...
Because, ultimately, it's the owners that control their computers.

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Old 09-07-2005, 07:25 PM
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Default Re: There\'s A Reason Talented People Build Bots

Good to hear from a trader, I've thought for a while that we will eventually have many of the same auto trading programs etc... converted in a sense to do the same thing for poker.

Poker and trading are so much alike that it isn't funny, poker just has less unknown information...

If it's good enough for trading...

And I don't know anyone who trades even with auto trading programs that would just walk away from there computer, they still monitor the situation and have ultimate say and control...

I don't think a bot that runs itself is the way to go but I would support things that make my job easier by reducing the redundant information and making simple decisions that anyone with half a brain would make...

Don't they have something like this for blackjack online that follows basic rules...

I think this definately needs to be addressed by a multinational organization for poker that works with the online poker sites and communities, sorta like the united nations [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Just some thoughts

One Street at a Time
wdbaker Denver, Co
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: There\'s A Reason Talented People Build Bots

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I'll just give a personal example:

I make 100 trades/day on the NYSE...
And make about $1,000/day...
And I make money about 80% of trading days.

Now...
I am not a "great trader" - just a "very good" trader.
I used to trade in the now defunct Toronto Stock Exchange Futures pit...
So I have known many natural "great traders".


BUT...
Several computers...
And some very elaborate proprietary software that I have developed over 10 years...
Allow me to be ** very profitable **.

After researching poker for 5-6 months...
Pretty much the same thing applies to Online Poker...
SNGs in particular.

A "very good" poker player assisted by the right proprietary software...
Can generate the income of a "great player"...
And with somewhat less variance.

There is a large group of computer engineer types...
Who believe that "collusion" is cheating...
But view "computer assisted play" as OK and inevitable.

Also people from the stock trading world...
Where Automated Trading Systems are ubiquitous...
Do not view "computer assisted play" as unethical.

Also...
And this may come as a great shock to you...
But there are a lot of computer engineer types...
That would rather spend 1000 hours of fascinating work building a Bot...
Than spending 40 soul-destroying minutes times 1,000 or 10,000...
Playing slo mo poker with the idiots at the $11s.

Bots are here to stay...
And are just building momentum.

Eventually...
They will be part of the online scenery...
Just like program trading on the NYSE.

It's a battle Party Poker cannot win...
Because, ultimately, it's the owners that control their computers.

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You forgot to tell us what this is to the tune of.
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