The world should be kissing our feet!

[The once and future king]

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The Yanks+Rusikeis+Brits had a hard time stoping the Germans, and would have been even harder if they hadnt had that strategic tard Hitler in charge.

Now imagine that in 39 Germany allied with Britan+France. Britain still rules the waves, germans lead the way in armements. Yankland was docile and unprepared, we could have had you easy.

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Hitler had absolutely no intention of giving squat to the Brits or the French nor did he want their "help" in any way shape or form if conquered (the Vichy gov't offered Hilter their military help and he flatly turned them down). It was all about the Germanic race from the very begining and never included the Brits or any other non-Germanic nation. Learn your history before you spout off.

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You total moraaaaan. This whole thread is about HYPOTHETICAL and IMAGINED situations.

Perhaps try to comprehend the nature of a thread before spouting off.

Now imagine that in 39 Germany allied with Britan+France.

This was your clue you retard.

[andyfox]

FDR did make a deal with the Soviets to slice up the world.

[andyfox]

And tell us how lovely it smells.

[Cyrus]

I mean, you are practicing your bluffs, right ?

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It just fascinates me that the US is so vilified by the world and even people in our own country.

[/ QUOTE ] You are easily fascinated. There's nothing mysterious about this. People the world over admire the American system of governance, its people's intrinsic values and its culture. (Do I need to scare up "polls" to show any of this? I hope not.)

At the same time, people the world over resent American imperialism. You should read a couple of dozen quotes from American political leaders of the 20th and 19th century about "America's destiny in the world" (read: the need to assert and project its power over the globe). Perhaps you'd be fascinated.

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Don’t they realize that the only thing that has kept them from enslavement is the US Constitution?

[/ QUOTE ] If you are referring to the American people, you are putting cart before horse. If you are referring to foreign people, the U.S. constitution had nothing to do with any of the "humane interventions abroad" (=military action) that America engaged throughout its history.

Nations do not have "feelings", señor Iglesias! They have interests.

...Fascinating, innit?

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Imagine for a moment that all that power was in a monarchy.

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If forced to choose, yes, I'd much rather have American imperialism than Nazi or Soviet imperialism. This is a no brainer. I'd rather have a democracy oppressing me than an despotic nation. For obvious, selfish reasons.

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Was there a more colonial or imperial president than Teddy Roosevelt?

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I'll say No! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] And thank you.

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It’s very possible that without [the US constitution] FDR or Truman could have cut a deal with the Soviets and the Chinese to slice the world up three ways.

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So, the constitution stopped them - and not the stone cold assessment of the power balance and the prospects for a hot war, either conventional or nuclear? I'm fascinated with your fixation on the US constitution as the end-all and be-all in world affairs!

But I suppose you are not aware of the fact that the United States did actually "slice up the world" with the Soviets in a series of "deals"! Most publicly, in a little conference held in a little city inside the USSR called Yalta. (You didn't know that? Fascinating.)

[slamdunkpro]

Sigh,,, I suppose I have to spell it out .....

Yes I know about Yalta - I was speaking in broader hypothetical terms.

[Cyrus]

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Sigh... I guess I have to spell it out. I was speaking in broader hypothetical terms.

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There's nothing "broadly hypothetical" in what you claimed. Which was this little piece of stupidity:

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It’s very possible that without [the US constitution] FDR or Truman could have cut a deal with the Soviets ... to slice the world up.

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Spelling it out, once more for ya: That's a false claim! What you claimed would not happen, actually did happen.

And the "US constitution" had nothing at all to do with it.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Democracy was not invented or first implemented in the US. I think US should thank Oooooold Europe [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img].

[Felix_Nietsche]

Democracy was not invented or first implemented in the US. I think US should thank Oooooold Europe .
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Shouldn't the USA by thanking the ancient Greeks rather than Oooooold Europe. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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Democracy was not invented or first implemented in the US. I think US should thank Oooooold Europe .
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Shouldn't the USA by thanking the ancient Greeks rather than Oooooold Europe. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Ooooooold Europe should be thanking Greece [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]