Hand against Dane. - Page 2

NLSoldier · #11 11-03-2005, 04:36 AM

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I'm not too big on live play,

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Cmon man, just ask deathdonkey, theres nothing like getting screwplayed by soiler, LIVE.

Danenania · #12 11-03-2005, 04:41 AM

Looks pretty good. I think I'm usually betting and calling down with an Ace there unless you do this to me a few more times, so you should probably value bet the river since I'm not bluffing. Or maybe that's what I want you to think...

Jeff W · #13 11-03-2005, 04:44 AM

Why would I bet a river Ace?

mperich · #14 11-03-2005, 04:49 AM

I really dont understand what your argument is. Jeff checkfolds a river ace I think. Even if he bet, I highly doubt Dane raises a river Ace without AA, his raise is basically valueless and he gets 3bet a ton. So again, what is wrong with Jeff's line other than his river check?

-Mike

scotty34 · #15 11-03-2005, 04:51 AM

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Why would I bet a river Ace?

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Ok, well a river K or Q or something to that effect. After seeing him check the turn, what rivers are you going to bet?

scotty34 · #16 11-03-2005, 04:53 AM

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I really dont understand what your argument is. Jeff checkfolds a river ace I think. Even if he bet, I highly doubt Dane raises a river Ace without AA, his raise is basically valueless and he gets 3bet a ton. So again, what is wrong with Jeff's line other than his river check?

-Mike

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OK, I guess I was a little more unclear in my point than I meant to be. I meant to suggest Dane could check behind the turn, and get a free draw to at least 12 outs.

Edit: I don't know how Dane plays, so if Jeff was fairly confident that he would bet the turn, there is nothing wrong with it.

baronzeus · #17 11-03-2005, 04:54 AM

jeff,

i would value bet this.

mperich · #18 11-03-2005, 04:57 AM

What hands is Dane checking behind on the turn? Jeff usually c/rs a pair on this flop I would think (as would Dane), so therefore he is usually on a draw. The board is incredibly drawy against a big blind smoothcaller. Its also drawy for a button raiser, since his range is so large. Dane knows Jeff knows this and would not want to give a free card, so Dane is even less likely to check behind.

-Mike

scotty34 · #19 11-03-2005, 05:02 AM

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What hands is Dane checking behind on the turn? Jeff usually c/rs a pair on this flop I would think (as would Dane), so therefore he is usually on a draw. The board is incredibly drawy against a big blind smoothcaller. Its also drawy for a button raiser, since his range is so large. Dane knows Jeff knows this and would not want to give a free card, so Dane is even less likely to check behind.

-Mike

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Again I will qualify this by saying I don't really know how either of the two play.

However, Jeff does have a pair and he did not C/R the flop, so he obviously doesn't always do this. Also personally, I will often C/R the flop with either a pair or draw. In Dane's position, I'm not exactly sure what I would make of the check-call and no donk on the turn.

surfdoc · #20 11-03-2005, 05:59 AM

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I'm not too big on live play,

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Cmon man, just ask deathdonkey, theres nothing like getting screwplayed by soiler, LIVE.

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When the new house is done, I will get all you little phuckers over and we'll get to it. Gotta get the wife and kids out of town. Maybe plan it during a Chargers game so we have a little distraction while soiler turns over his roll to buy me some new sh!t.