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Old 10-16-2005, 05:50 AM
splashpot splashpot is offline
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Default $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

***** Hand History for Game 2854729317 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16460582 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Sunday, October 16, 04:03:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 13767 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: Rationality ( $1135 )
Seat 4: SALVO69 ( $3510 )
Seat 10: ebdru420 ( $1480 )
Seat 3: batmanubc ( $1250 )
Seat 7: spamhamm ( $625 )
Trny:16460582 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Rationality [ 3h Kd ]
spamhamm folds.
ebdru420 folds.
batmanubc folds.
SALVO69 calls [75].
Rationality checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9h, 4h, 7c ]
SALVO69 checks.
Rationality is all-In

I'll be kind of short stacked if I let this round of blinds go through me. What do you think of this bluff?
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:56 AM
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I think you should have went allin preflop.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

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I'll be kind of short stacked if I let this round of blinds go through me. What do you think of this bluff?

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When the big stack checks here it means he has hit and wants you to take a shot at it.
Check it down + fold to his river bet.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

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I'll be kind of short stacked if I let this round of blinds go through me. What do you think of this bluff?

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When the big stack checks here it means he has hit and wants you to take a shot at it.
Check it down + fold to his river bet.

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This doesn't make sense to me. If you were the big stack and you missed this flop, you'd bet at it? Can you be sure he would do that? I mean it's not like I have a stack so small that it's no real danger to him. If I play back at him, I'd make a decent dent in his stack.
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Old 10-16-2005, 07:21 AM
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

Failing to push preflop was pretty bad in my opinion.

You might consider not bluffing in a $22
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Old 10-16-2005, 10:12 AM
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Table Table 13767 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 5: Rationality ( $1135 )
Seat 4: SALVO69 ( $3510 )
Seat 10: ebdru420 ( $1480 )
Seat 3: batmanubc ( $1250 )
Seat 7: spamhamm ( $625 )


[/ QUOTE ]Why aren't the seats in order? Or, maybe I should ask why they've been ordered this way?
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

I have three conditions for pulling these moves

Early or mid game I need a strong draw. Mid-game up until five players left I need to have a big stack. On the bubble, I'll do this a lot more with four players, one of whom is a short stack. Same applies to hands agaisnt chip leader / second stack if there's a shorty ITM with us.

Most of the time however, I prefer bluffing with continuation bets or raising weak flop bets. It just makes things simpler. When I raise a flop bet, the guy almost always has to have a made hand to come over the top or call.

I just don't think a bluff is worth it here. About half the time, the big stack is trapping here and the other half they took a stab and checked it. Even if they took a stab with air, a smaller bet would be just as likely to take the pot.

My first thought after reading his hand was that players at the 22s just aren't smart enough for stuff like to pay off in the longrun. (You're the one named "Rationality," here. This guy is still getting giggles from "69.")

From the index card of poker wisdom hanging above my computer:

"Don't project your knowledge onto other players."
"Pass up marginal situations."
"Maintain your edge."
"Don't get fancy - EVER!"
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Old 10-16-2005, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

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I think you should have went allin preflop.

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Old 10-16-2005, 04:34 PM
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I think going all-in here is fine (though I prefer doing it preflop). The most likely reason the SB checked is because he has nothing and doesn't want to put more chips in against an opponent that can damage his stack. There is a chance he is slowplaying a monster, but I would say if he hits a pair or has any kind of pp he bets here.
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Old 10-16-2005, 08:38 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: $22 is this a decent spot to bluff?

This guy is still getting giggles from "69.") -- Classic NH

move in preflop. since you didn't... check it down.
push next viable opportunity.
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