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Old 10-02-2005, 11:42 PM
Paragon Paragon is offline
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Default ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

This sng took awhile so the blinds are mighty steep. Multi tabling, so no reads... I've never posted a thread before and this seemed like an awkward situation.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (3 handed) converter

BB (t5892)
Button (t1774)
Hero (t5834)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t800, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

I'll post my thoughts/results later I guess, either to bump the thread or respond to others.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

Any reason not to fold?
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

What if you were guaranteed that if you pushed, the BB would fold and the button would call? You would have a chance to win a 4398 chip pot by only investing 1324 more chips. About 7:3 pot odds... better than even the 2:1 auto call situations.
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

I'm not sure what SNG poker tracker says. And by the way I think with Eastbay's new version (1.19) you could create this scenario by creating a specific tourney. I'll try it tomorrow. But given this scenario, I think it invites a call because you could knock him out in 3rd spot. But that's just a guess.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:57 AM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

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Any reason not to fold?

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I can't imagine folding can possibly be correct.
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Old 10-03-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

Well anyway, I guess I hinted at it already, but I decided to push. It was a snap decision, and I posted this to see if I might be convinced otherwise... After thinking about it more I still agree with my initial choice, despite some counter intuitive feeling to it.

My process was basically just

1) I think the button is limping any two
2) QT is great vs random hand allin pf, especially with these odds
3) Why let the BB join the fun by limping?
4) Impossible to isolate without committing myself...
5) Push

I think BB will fold a lot of marginally strong hands. The main fear is of course that BB calls with monster, button actually folds, I go out in 3rd. Considering how unlikely (although significant) that may be, I still vote push.
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Old 10-03-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

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My process was basically just

1) I think the button is limping any two


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Why would he do that?
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Old 10-03-2005, 03:43 PM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

my default play is to limp here. Folding here would be horrible.
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Old 10-03-2005, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

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This sng took awhile so the blinds are mighty steep. Multi tabling, so no reads... I've never posted a thread before and this seemed like an awkward situation.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (3 handed) converter

BB (t5892)
Button (t1774)
Hero (t5834)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t800, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

I'll post my thoughts/results later I guess, either to bump the thread or respond to others.

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Without reading any of the other replies, I would say that the button limp would have to mean something more than any 2, no? Seems suspect to me. I would limp/complete here, I think.
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Old 10-03-2005, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: ($55) 3 way, steep blinds, weird spot

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Any reason not to fold?

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I can't imagine folding can possibly be correct.

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Yeah sorry I misread the initial post. Folding is junk. Complete I think. Pushing is a reasonable idea too if the BB isn't nuts.
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