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Old 08-10-2005, 03:16 AM
LImitPlayer LImitPlayer is offline
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Default Fold this turn?

NO reads on the player

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:18 AM
jason_t jason_t is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

Nice hand.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:21 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

me dumb disregard
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:25 AM
LImitPlayer LImitPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

What would checkraisng accomplish here?

I was planning a stop n go on the turn but the K kinda changed my plans.

If I were to checkraise or 3-bet the flop what's your line when the K falls? I also have no diamonds

He 3 bet out of the samll blind. What hands is he 3 betting here that I can beat?
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:28 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

ya know what, I think I was wrong on this one... lemme think a bit

also, your op said villain 3-bet from button, not small blind.
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:34 AM
LImitPlayer LImitPlayer is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

lol, sorry you are right he did 3-bet from the button.
I'm tired and need some sleep. Does his position change anything?
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:37 AM
WillyTrailer WillyTrailer is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

yep. well done. almost no way we're ahead now. nice hand.

-WT
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Old 08-10-2005, 03:37 AM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

Let me try this again, this time giving exact opposite advice.

Without a read I guess we can assume a standard 3-bet range for villain here, 88+, AK, AQ. We have roughly 50/50 equity.

A problem with the flop bet to me is that villain could raise with pretty much every single one of his possible holdings. So maybe this is a good spot to use a wa/wb line as kings are the only card we are scared of falling (yeah I know it fell but thats how it goes). How about c/c c/c bet? That is unless a king falls.

Edit for some numbers: using the range i have up your actual equity from ps is 45% on the flop. blank turn 51%. blank river 59%. so maybe im onto something.
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Old 08-10-2005, 04:41 AM
SteveGriff SteveGriff is offline
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Default Re: Fold this turn?

Yeah on the turn I think you're in a bit of a bother. Nice fold methinks.

If the turn was a dud, then I'd probably would have raised then

Steve Griff
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