AJo vs Hyper aggressive TAG

krimson · #1 11-22-2005, 09:51 PM

CO is 15/12/4.6 (2000+ hands).

Limp pre-flop is questionable. Table is fairly loose passive, I figured one more player would cold-call, and the poster and the bb have good odds to call with lots of hands, and i'm stuck 4 or 5-way with AJo for 2 bets.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $5.
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (7.20 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises...

hobbsmann · #2 11-22-2005, 10:04 PM

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Limp pre-flop is questionable. Table is fairly loose passive, I figured one more player would cold-call, and the poster and the bb have good odds to call with lots of hands, and i'm stuck 4 or 5-way with AJo for 2 bets.

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wtf? VAALLLUUUEEEEE.

As for the hand I do like a good sexy and think this was a great place for it.

krimson · #3 11-22-2005, 10:13 PM

FWIW, I would almost never limp AJo like this, it was kind of a spur of the moment decision, and largely emotionally driven (not tilt by any means, just reacting to how the table had been playing in an odd manner).

Nick C · #4 11-22-2005, 10:33 PM

I don't know what CO has, but I think this is a good spot for a river checkraise, versus an opponent who's so aggressive.

Maybe he'll make a highly optimistic bluff with a busted diamond draw or bet A6s for value.

It's possible I'm being influenced by the fact that I know CO bet, but I'm thinking a checkraise would be pretty satisfying here, even if CO didn't pay it off.

QTip · #5 11-22-2005, 10:37 PM

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It's possible I'm being influenced by the fact that I know CO bet, but I'm thinking a checkraise would be pretty satisfying here.

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I've been trying to work these c/res into my game more, and doing a poor job of it so far. I reread "HU on the river" in TOP, and that was a good think. But so far, I've been making bad judgements and tuimm when villain checks behind. I should start posting some of these.

Nick C · #6 11-22-2005, 10:40 PM

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It's possible I'm being influenced by the fact that I know CO bet, but I'm thinking a checkraise would be pretty satisfying here.

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I've been trying to work these c/res into my game more, and doing a poor job of it so far. I reread "HU on the river" in TOP, and that was a good think. But so far, I've been making bad judgements and tupimm when villain checks behind. I should start posting some of these.

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To be honest, I can't even remember the last sexy river checkraise I attempted that I didn't whiff on.

This would depress me more if I tried the play more often. But I don't go for river checkraises as much as I should.

krimson · #7 11-22-2005, 10:52 PM

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I'm thinking a checkraise would be pretty satisfying here, even if CO didn't pay it off.

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I think this is pretty key. All I'm really wanting on this hand is for him to bet it. If my hand were weaker like a smaller ace, I would probably just take a c/c line on this hand given the villian and action. But my hand is almost never behind here, so I c/r and him calling the raise would just be icing on the cake.

Also, my reasoning for the c/r here is the same as your thinking. He's almost always on a flushdraw or small ace (he's a good player, just very aggressive, so I have a hard time putting him on anything else). He will pay me off with Ax, but not likely with a flushdraw when I bet into him. When checked to I think he bets the missed flush draw fairly often, and bets the ace almost always. Therefore I get the same value from a small ace, and more value from a missed draw by checking to him.

QTip · #8 11-22-2005, 10:58 PM

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I'm thinking a checkraise would be pretty satisfying here, even if CO didn't pay it off.

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I think this is pretty key. All I'm really wanting on this hand is for him to bet it. If my hand were weaker like a smaller ace, I would probably just take a c/c line on this hand given the villian and action. But my hand is almost never behind here, so I c/r and him calling the raise would just be icing on the cake.

Also, my reasoning for the c/r here is the same as your thinking. He's almost always on a flushdraw or small ace (he's a good player, just very aggressive, so I have a hard time putting him on anything else). He will pay me off with Ax, but not likely with a flushdraw when I bet into him. When checked to I think he bets the missed flush draw fairly often, and bets the ace almost always. Therefore I get the same value from a small ace, and more value from a missed draw by checking to him.

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All very good. That's another piece to the puzzle to add to the formula in TOP. This situation included you being able to induce a bluff + the ability to get 2 more in if his hand is legit. So as you said, icing on the cake. Nice.