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Old 12-26-2005, 01:50 AM
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who is it gonna be? i think u could make a case for a lot of people. could someone smarter than i let me know who the front runner is?
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:54 AM
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I dunno, just watch SportsCenter and you'll probably figure it out. If you don't committ suicide first.
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Old 12-26-2005, 01:57 AM
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i dont get it?
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:41 AM
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I dunno, just watch SportsCenter and you'll probably figure it out. If you don't committ suicide first.

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i dont get it?

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Defensive MVP goes to the guy who makes the most plays and gets the most hype... Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, etc.
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Old 12-26-2005, 04:52 PM
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Defensive MVP goes to the guy who makes the most plays and gets the most hype... Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, etc.

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Or, if there's a dominant defense (the type that comes along once every 2-4 years, say), it goes to whomever has the biggest name on the unit. This year, then, I'm thinking Urlacher.
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Old 12-27-2005, 03:17 AM
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Defensive MVP goes to the guy who makes the most plays and gets the most hype... Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, etc.

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Or, if there's a dominant defense (the type that comes along once every 2-4 years, say), it goes to whomever has the biggest name on the unit. This year, then, I'm thinking Urlacher.

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i couldnt agree more. their defense is certainly impressive, cant wait to see them at home in the playoffs
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Old 12-27-2005, 05:48 AM
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I dunno, just watch SportsCenter and you'll probably figure it out. If you don't committ suicide first.

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i dont get it?

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Defensive MVP goes to the guy who makes the most plays and gets the most hype... Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, etc.

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while i hate espn about more than anyone, if you are suggesting that someone other than ed reed was the best defensive player in football in 2004 youre crazy

(i agree that this is award is tough because it requires comparing players occupying vastly different positions (i.e cornerback vs nose tackle or free safety vs defensive end)

i usually classify defensive mvp as the player i felt made the most big plays at big times, and it was their skill alone who put them there, i.e ed reed in 2004. sometimes there is a reason players receive hype.

this year i have watched multiple highlights of probably every game, and i dont really have an easy answer like ed reed was last year, and i was hoping for somebody who did? is that person out there? fwiw both giants end have been stellar, and have bolstered that defense. mike brown and nathan vashar from chicago have been awesome too. but defensive mvps? im not sure

any other opinions?

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Old 12-27-2005, 10:16 AM
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Defensive MVP goes to the guy who makes the most plays and gets the most hype... Derrick Brooks, Ed Reed, etc.

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while i hate espn about more than anyone, if you are suggesting that someone other than ed reed was the best defensive player in football in 2004 youre crazy. . .

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How do you know that? By watching lots of highlights? A defensive player might be in on close to a thousand snaps in a season; a handful of highlight-reel caliber plays are a very small part of the story.

Maybe the guy making lots of spectacular plays is gambling to get in position for such heroics, and misses his assignment more than he should. Maybe there's a defensive end who faces constant double teams and doesn't put up double-digit sacks, but does lead the league in "hurries" and "forced INTs," for which only his coaches will give him full credit. Perhaps there's an OLB who's so dominant that teams almost never run or pass in his direction, giving him pedestrian numbers and fewer opportunities to make big plays. Players like these put their teammates, on both sides of the ball, in position to make the highlight reel.

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i usually classify defensive mvp as the player i felt made the most big plays at big times, and it was their skill alone who put them there, i.e ed reed in 2004.

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Obviously I think this is a bad system, but as long as the award is voted on by fans and journalists, it's the only way to go. That's why I'd rather take them out of the loop completely. How about this: each team picks the two or three people on their staff who watch the most tape, and they each get a vote (can't vote for your own team, naturally). People who actually have a hand in preparing a team to play, and who actually watch every (or nearly every) game are much better qualified to judge dominance than the writers from the AP.
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:19 AM
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Someone from the Bears.
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Old 12-26-2005, 02:47 AM
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Tedy Bruschi. I mean, the guy had a stroke! He is just such a leader on the team (impressive considering the guy had a stroke!) and makes the big plays (STROKE!).

He is the clear winner. Did I mention the guy had a stroke!


<font color="white"> You know how if you use a word over and over in your head it becomes funny to say it? That just happened to me with the word stroke. I'm resisting the urge to look it up in a dictionary to make sure I'm using the right word. </font>
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