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Old 08-28-2005, 10:30 PM
redsoxsox redsoxsox is offline
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

lol kickers count, wtf how is this a split
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

wtf? apparently kickers don't matter when you have quads when playing on party and empire!

check this out, from the Empire hand rankings page :

their definition of 2 pair:
"Two Pair:
If two players have two pair, the hand with the highest pair wins. If they have the same high pair, whoever has the second highest pair wins. If they have the same two pair, whoever has the highest fifth card ("kicker") wins."

however, there is nothing about kickers when they describe quads:
"Four of a Kind:
Four cards of the same number or face value ("quads")."

very surprising, because i didn't realize that there were differences between the rankings of different sites.

good to know. next time the board shows quads, i'll push on a party skin table.

ts-
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:47 PM
savman savman is offline
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

the irony between the title of this post and some of the responses is overwhelming.
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:52 PM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

[ QUOTE ]
wtf? apparently kickers don't matter when you have quads when playing on party and empire!

check this out, from the Empire hand rankings page :

their definition of 2 pair:
"Two Pair:
If two players have two pair, the hand with the highest pair wins. If they have the same high pair, whoever has the second highest pair wins. If they have the same two pair, whoever has the highest fifth card ("kicker") wins."

however, there is nothing about kickers when they describe quads:
"Four of a Kind:
Four cards of the same number or face value ("quads")."

very surprising, because i didn't realize that there were differences between the rankings of different sites.

good to know. next time the board shows quads, i'll push on a party skin table.

ts-

[/ QUOTE ]

This is news to all of you? Its generally a good idea to learn the hand rankings for the site you play on. They vary somewhat when 2 opponents have the same hand.
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:55 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

The descriptions on Party/EP are wrong. I've seen quads over quads on Party when some donk with a king pushed into a slightly lesser donk with an ace. They didn't split.
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:56 PM
soweak. soweak. is offline
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

Guys, it's the converter that messes it up. watch:

POKERSTARS GAME #2390138649: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2005/08/21 - 15:09:10 (ET)
Table 'Taygeta' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: scootr37 ($159.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Haystack44 ($131.50 in chips)
Seat 4: redsoxasu ($123 in chips)
Seat 5: FL-Hunter ($126 in chips)
Seat 6: dset ($137 in chips)
Seat 7: chipburner 1 ($89.50 in chips)
Seat 8: BeethSymNo5 ($135 in chips)
Seat 9: replay56 ($191 in chips)
Seat 10: snoozlab ($63 in chips)
BeethSymNo5: posts small blind $1
replay56: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to redsoxasu [Kh Ah]
snoozlab: folds
scootr37: folds
Haystack44: raises $3 to $6
redsoxasu: raises $3 to $9
FL-Hunter: folds
dset: folds
chipburner 1: calls $9
BeethSymNo5: folds
replay56: calls $6
Haystack44: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Qs 8d 8s]
replay56: checks
Haystack44: checks
redsoxasu: bets $3
chipburner 1: calls $3
replay56: folds
Haystack44: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Qs 8d 8s] [8c]
Haystack44: checks
redsoxasu: checks
chipburner 1: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 8d 8s 8c] [8h]
Haystack44: checks
redsoxasu: bets $6
chipburner 1 said, "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
chipburner 1: folds
Haystack44: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
redsoxasu: shows [Kh Ah] (four of a kind, Eights)
Haystack44: mucks hand
redsoxasu collected $56 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $58 | Rake $2
Board [Qs 8d 8s 8c 8h]
Seat 2: scootr37 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Haystack44 mucked [Th Ks]
Seat 4: redsoxasu showed [Kh Ah] and won ($56) with four of a kind, Eights
Seat 5: FL-Hunter folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dset folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: chipburner 1 (button) folded on the River
Seat 8: BeethSymNo5 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: replay56 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: snoozlab folded before Flop (didn't bet)

becomes...

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (7.66 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB


MP1 has Th Ks (four of a kind, eights).
Hero has Kh Ah (four of a kind, eights).
Outcome: MP1 wins 4.83 BB. Hero wins 4.83 BB

And for those of you who said kicker doesn't play in quads, YSSCKY.
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:58 PM
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Brilliant commentary! 1st prize (never used any of those symbols before).
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

This thread makes me hurt. Alot.

Nick
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist = this thread

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Old 08-28-2005, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: Proof that donks exist

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the irony between the title of this post and some of the responses is overwhelming.

[/ QUOTE ]

A-men
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